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Old 05-01-2008, 06:02 PM
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I don't agree. Getting your convergance right and getting some personal discipline to fire only at that convergence isn't that hard.

I think the real problem is managing peoples expectations. People see gun cam and think why can't I do that? Then you go back to the gun cam and look at just how close the planes were to each other. That never seems to be taken up by any forum discussions on the .50 topics, all 50 bazillion of them.

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And if you really read all those pilot accunts you posted here, none of them was dead six shot, the most usual line being "...I observed strikes over fuselage and cockpit...".
Well ofcourse the .50 could penetrate plexiglass, especially at deflections you see comonly described in those pilot accounts, that's hardly an achievement.
I think thats part of the problem. People sit behind the dead 6 of a 190 at 500m, shoot 1000 rounds and see 50 strikes and expect miracles. The British did those tests on the 190 and showed that at a distance firing on a dead 6 at the 190 won't do particularly much unless you get lucky. More to the point, as you say, I don't think I've ever seen gun cam footage of a fighter destroying another fighter with .50's at 500m on its dead 6, more like 100m to 150m.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:11 PM
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I don't agree. Getting your convergance right and getting some personal discipline to fire only at that convergence isn't that hard.

I think the real problem is managing peoples expectations. People see gun cam and think why can't I do that? Then you go back to the gun cam and look at just how close the planes were to each other. That never seems to be taken up by any forum discussions on the .50 topics, all 50 bazillion of them.



I think thats part of the problem. People sit behind the dead 6 of a 190 at 500m, shoot 1000 rounds and see 50 strikes and expect miracles. The British did those tests on the 190 and showed that at a distance firing on a dead 6 at the 190 won't do particularly much unless you get lucky. More to the point, as you say, I don't think I've ever seen gun cam footage of a fighter destroying another fighter with .50's at 500m on its dead 6, more like 100m to 150m.
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In game we can rip the **** out of any aerial target at 200m with .50cals.

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