how are these 109s turns 180 with out penalties?

[Untamo]

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I mostly fly blue but have tested out the red planes as well. I can say that the CEM model of the 109 is a bit off. You can slam the throttle 100% at mission start (no warmup needed) and take it off only when going for landing .. And it never overheats too. Also, what little I have used it, WEP doesn't seem to effect the engine negatively either. Only thing that needs attention is the prop pitch.

On the other end of the scale, I think some planes are "overmodelled"(correct term?) in the CEM department, like the G50 and Blenheim. Very long warmups needed... So long that a 109 pilot has done a couple of sorties in the mean time ... Even the slightest variation from the optimal values seem to cause some failure in Blenny.

On the bombers always low issue... well I can say that I personally am an exception. Regardless of the bomber type (thusfar I have flown Blenheim, Ju88, Stuka, 110) I always come to the target area at about 4km and circle behind the target so I can dive towards friendly lines. Any lower, and I get shot by the reds that seem to mostly keep below 2km... Well, not in Stuka... reds get shot when I come with it ... Most Hurri and Spit pilots don't seem to know that it turns better than them.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Untamo

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I mostly fly blue but have tested out the red planes as well. I can say that the CEM model of the 109 is a bit off. You can slam the throttle 100% at mission start (no warmup needed) and take it off only when going for landing .. And it never overheats too. Also, what little I have used it, WEP doesn't seem to effect the engine negatively either. Only thing that needs attention is the prop pitch.

On the other end of the scale, I think some planes are "overmodelled"(correct term?) in the CEM department, like the G50 and Blenheim. Very long warmups needed... So long that a 109 pilot has done a couple of sorties in the mean time ... Even the slightest variation from the optimal values seem to cause some failure in Blenny.

On the bombers always low issue... well I can say that I personally am an exception. Regardless of the bomber type (thusfar I have flown Blenheim, Ju88, Stuka, 110) I always come to the target area at about 4km and circle behind the target so I can dive towards friendly lines. Any lower, and I get shot by the reds that seem to mostly keep below 2km... Well, not in Stuka... reds get shot when I come with it ... Most Hurri and Spit pilots don't seem to know that it turns better than them.

Well, radial engines HAS to warm up for quite some time before slamming yarn old throttle, so it's quite realistic that the G.50 takes time to get off the ground and also the Blennie.

Some people here said the red planes are the most "pick up and play" friendly but I find the 109/110 to be much easier to manage. Turn on fuel cock(s) start engine, slam throttle and you're in the air. The Blenheim, for example, is the total opposite, everything has to be done with care....lol! no, I slam the throttle on that one too once oil temp is over 30 degrees. Once you know the basics of the CEM it is almost as simple as old IL-2, don't overrev, keep temps in check, check ATA or boost so it's not too high for a protracted period of time etc. The hardest part though is when you are in a dogfight and have to start fiddling with the prop pitch back and forth, looking forward to the Fw-190 in that department or any post E version of the 109's, feeling sorry already for the red flyers in BoM when they try to fly a I-16 or a Lagg-3 with full CEM. I hope the I-16 pilots likes pumping landing gear lol!

[Untamo]

Originally Posted by addman

lol! no, I slam the throttle on that one too once oil temp is over 30 degrees. Once you know the basics of the CEM it is almost as simple as old IL-2, don't overrev, keep temps in check, check ATA or boost so it's not too high for a protracted period of time etc...

Really? :O ... Could you give the reference values for Blenheim, I'll try them out tonight. Every time I've tried it, it seems so super sensitive to anything. I've kept boost under 4 lbs... (water?.. the ones over the shoulder)temps between 200-300 as in G50, are these ok? What oil temp is ok? .. No idea what the RPMs should be .. I kept them at about 2000 or something like that. Every time the engines die on me one way or the other. Last time I tried it, was my longest run with airstart in A&A ATAG. I almost got to France before they died. Crashed on the beach

[Flanker35M]

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Blenheim seems to contradict with the interviews of WW2 vets. Finnish pilot liked it and said it was an easy plane to fly and astoundingly agile for it's size. The CEM needs work in CoD, feels a bit simple to me.