Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion)

[MegOhm]

The point is we bought an unfinished product that is still not working a year later... We bought the initial version on good faith...but we still have a Sim that you can't fly for more than 30 mins most of the time in MP.... It is no wonder customers are stomping their feet.. Frankly, with what has transpired, it is not surprising at all...it is easy to lose faith after so long. I would be shocked if this Sim survives and becomes what we thought we were buying.

Nothing to see here? If anything significant happens, I will see it when Steam Downloads whatever is coming next errr... whenever.

[philip.ed]

MegOhm is right. Whilst the team is small, underfunded (?), limited by certain factors etc etc, it doesn't excuse a shoddy product or false statements, or even comments saying they won't offer the community anything because certain people are negative.

hardly professional. You can sugar-coat it as much as you want, but the time has come now for the buyers to choose whether or not they will offer their continuing support. It seems the more engrossed you get in the politics, the more you're put off supporting the team.

It is best to play something else and be patient, but as I said above: it doesn't excuse a faulty product.

Many forum members have been tireless in offering the team support, information etc and I don't think they have really gotten anything in return; least of all messages saying that, because the team is upset, they may discontinue weekly updates. It seems rather childish to me.


Best scenario? Let it dry out. It's only a PC game. If they don't need to community as much as they let on, we have nothing to worry about. This sim isn't going to go anywhere anytime soon.

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

MegOhm is right. Whilst the team is small, underfunded (?), limited by certain factors etc etc, it doesn't excuse a shoddy product or false statements, or even comments saying they won't offer the community anything because certain people are negative.

hardly professional. You can sugar-coat it as much as you want, but the time has come now for the buyers to choose whether or not they will offer their continuing support. It seems the more engrossed you get in the politics, the more you're put off supporting the team.

It is best to play something else and be patient, but as I said above: it doesn't excuse a faulty product.

Many forum members have been tireless in offering the team support, information etc and I don't think they have really gotten anything in return; least of all messages saying that, because the team is upset, they may discontinue weekly updates. It seems rather childish to me.


Best scenario? Let it dry out. It's only a PC game. If they don't need to community as much as they let on, we have nothing to worry about. This sim isn't going to go anywhere anytime soon.

You lot really are unbelievable, you're not even considerate enough to wait for the patch before passing further judgement. You KNOW the team are working hard to fix the product. You KNOW the patch is close to release. You've seen what they've already achieved with regards to sound but no.....you have to lay the bl**dy boot in again, and again and again.

And MegOhm says, oh, I don't think the product will survive, the sky is falling down.

Get a grip you guys. You remind me of some thugs standing over a victim and kicking them in the teeth every time they try to get up. No help whatsoever. Achieving NOTHING, ZILCH, ZIP.

[DroopSnoot]

Sutts I see you, kicking phillip in the teeth because he has a different opinion. I see you getting cross and swearing I see you raising the aggression bar. Nothing Philip or MegOhm said was untruthfull or a lie.
You just dont want to hear it or accept it.
Is the sky falling if you accept it as the truth that some paying customers may feel this way after a year, I think not so take some of the medicine you wish to dish out and chill the heck out.

[6S.Tamat]

Originally Posted by DroopSnoot

Sutts I see you, kicking phillip in the teeth because he has a different opinion. I see you getting cross and swearing I see you raising the aggression bar. Nothing Philip or MegOhm said was untruthfull or a lie.
You just dont want to hear it or accept it.

+1

[Insuber]

Not to be cynical, but this place is turning from a boring place to an highly entertaining arena. 1C should sell the tickets.

[6S.Tamat]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Not to be cynical, but this place is turning from a boring place to an highly entertaining arena. 1C should sell the tickets.

Actually now there is no other reason to be here, cause we all know that no patch will be soon nether a real update about it...

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Not to be cynical, but this place is turning from a boring place to an highly entertaining arena. 1C should sell the tickets.

I had dropped off here, only checking weekly for the official updates but lately it has become astonishingly fun daily entertainment. I will be a little sad when the patch/new release comes out and the meltdowns stop. But then, I'm sure after a subsequent month or so it will be back to normality (as it is now)

Regards, Sam.

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by DroopSnoot

Sutts I see you, kicking phillip in the teeth because he has a different opinion. I see you getting cross and swearing I see you raising the aggression bar. Nothing Philip or MegOhm said was untruthfull or a lie.
You just dont want to hear it or accept it.
Is the sky falling if you accept it as the truth that some paying customers may feel this way after a year, I think not so take some of the medicine you wish to dish out and chill the heck out.

That may be true DroopSnoot, I just see negative statements like this to be unnecessary and potentially damaging to the way visitors to the forum perceive the product.

"the time has come now for the buyers to choose whether or not they will offer their continuing support"

"the more you're put off supporting the team"


Why even talk about cutting support for the developer when we haven't even seen what they've been working hard to deliver these past months? At least give them the chance to rectify things.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Sutts

That may be true DroopSnoot, I just see negative statements like this to be unnecessary and potentially damaging to the way visitors to the forum perceive the product.

"the time has come now for the buyers to choose whether or not they will offer their continuing support"

"the more you're put off supporting the team"


Why even talk about cutting support for the developer when we haven't even seen what they've been working hard to deliver these past months? At least give them the chance to rectify things.

I'm not supporting these suggestions at. I'm merely playing Devil's Advocate. Look at my last few postings, and my stance should seem pretty clear. The team has no wish to upset the community and ruin their business, but recent postings (perhaps translation issues?) appear otherwise.

I don't think people need to be lectured to offer support. If a new customer came here, unsatisfied with the product, and had the developer post a Banjo video, they would be pretty annoyed. You have to be a long-term member to see the humour; so if we are to assume the team are catering for the long term members, and the long term members are now getting annoyed....

it's a tricky situation.

I promote what I've always said before: a topic may have a few negative posts, but if left in isolation they are harmless. If they get expanded into 20 page topics, it's then that the aggression, flaming, nastiness comes out. From all sides.