The Crystal Ball 2

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

The main problem is that they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. If they don't release info, they have today's situation: A buttload of bitching, whining and ranting on the boards.

But when they DO release info, it's more of the same since people's pet problem/issue isn't on the list.

Until people learn patience, this will go on. And sadly, I don't think people are able to learn patience.

Whose fault is that? Who are the ones that sold us a nonfunctional product? Who are the ones that purchased a defective product on faith it would be made better in the future?

Everybody acts like we owe the devs a favor when in fact they owe us big time.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Whose fault is that? Who are the ones that sold us a nonfunctional product? Who are the ones that purchased a defective product on faith it would be made better in the future?

Everybody acts like we owe the devs a favor when in fact they owe us big time.

Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to buy it. If you don't have the foresight to expect issues in something as ambitious as this, then you shouldn't buy it in the first place.

Caveat Emptor. Pure and simple.

Will I personally be a bit more interested in reading what others has to say about the expansionpack before I buy it? Hell yes. Does that mean I'll go off on a rampage when/if an eventual buy blows up in my face? No. It means I'll notch it up as yet another bad usage of $50, and leave it at that.

Does the Devs owe us? Maybe. But patience is a virtue that's a DAMN rare commodity these days, and these forums are a damn good example of just that. Hell, people here are even more rabid than MMO'ers, and that's saying something.

[robtek]

I am pretty shure that everybody saying he/she/it wont buy the sequel, or anything from 1c/MG, is either a troll, not doing any wwii combat-flightsimming anyway, or used to lie to himself!

[von Brühl]

Originally Posted by robtek

I am pretty shure that everybody saying he/she/it wont buy the sequel, or anything from 1c/MG, is either a troll, not doing any wwii combat-flightsimming anyway, or used to lie to himself!

Everyone doing combat-flight simming is probably playing 1946.

[Icebear]

Originally Posted by von Brühl

Everyone doing combat-flight simming is probably playing 1946.

+1

what else ?

[Wolf_Rider]

for all those promising to not purchase the next release... how come you're still here?
for all those whining about no news, etc... how come you're all still here?

you want to make an effective statement... resign the board, let them see you mean business instead of just continually whinging. (ie vote with your feet)

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

you want to make an effective statement... resign the board, let them see you mean business instead of just continually whinging. (ie vote with your feet)

Yeah. I remember at least one user who said to be leaving the forum for a while. Sadly, he didn`t last half a day and just HAD to post some more complaints.

Drama queens is what they are.

[Gabelschwanz Teufel]

Originally Posted by von Brühl

Everyone doing combat-flight simming is probably playing 1946.

Yep!

[Ploughman]

"IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer 1C: Maddox Games."

Sounds great, when can I expect it?

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to buy it.

Wow, do you have reading comprehension issues or something? Go back over my post again and re-think your reply.

A lot of us were led to believe that it was 1C Publishing forcing Maddox Games to get the thing out the door in its current state. The understanding was that MG would work hard to fix our product and remain in our good graces. We bought the game because Oleg & Co. had earned a lot of good will from the community, supporting their game for years after release and having constructive dialogue with the community.

Contrast that to the current situation. We bought their broken game. We're closing in on a year after release, the game's still broken in multiple significant ways, and they're already talking about a sequel. This is the kind of crap that EA/DICE get lambasted for in the media with the Call of Duty series. Before BlackSix was appointed, we had to get our news secondhand from the russian forums, as if the non-Russian audience is the red-headed stepchild of flight simmers. Conversations between Developer and Community could best be described as "frosty", and at worst as "hostile".

You tell me, who's in the wrong here?