Blacksix please...

furbs · #1 03-02-2012, 08:38 PM

Quote from Luthier...this from the last patch notes...

"Generally, releases should follow at about the same pace as they have with the current patch"

David Hayward · #2 03-02-2012, 08:48 PM

They're releasing a beta graphics patch to isolate graphics issues from everything else. I would expect a full patch soon afterwards, as they have been working on other issues at the same time that they have been working on graphics. That seems like it would be pretty obvious.

furbs · #3 03-02-2012, 08:59 PM

Thats what we hope is going to happen....

BETA graphics patch then maybe full retail with other fixes 2 weeks later.

but as we are saying its not clear what is going to happen and when.

David Hayward · #4 03-02-2012, 09:07 PM

2 weeks is probably the best case. His prediction of 3-6 months is nothing but trolling/

furbs · #5 03-02-2012, 09:18 PM

But David, it could well be true. we just dont know...yet.

David Hayward · #6 03-02-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by furbs

But David, it could well be true. we just dont know...yet.

He seems to know. That's why I'm asking where he saw the timeline posted.

adonys · #7 03-02-2012, 09:44 PM

are you a game developer?

I am, and I am working in game development industry back from 2002 as lead game-designer and senior producer. that's 10 years of experience by now.

"overhauling" a "graphic engine" like this practically must be read as re-writing the core part of the game (which is also consistent with the 6-12 months long timeline of this "overhauling") . after that you have to integrate all the other subsystems, and that can not be done in two weeks, or a month. unless you're doing both (core and other subsystems in the same branch) at the same time, case in which you can not release a beta only for the core part of the code..

maybe you can't read between the lines, but I can.

are you willing to bet with me that a full patch won't come earlier than 3 months at least from now on?

zapatista · #8 03-03-2012, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by furbs

Quote from Luthier...this from the last patch notes...

"Generally, releases should follow at about the same pace as they have with the current patch"

furbsy furbsy, you'r having a relapse of tree'itis there

previous smaller patches were released fairly frequently during the mad "post initial sale of the game" period, in a desperate attempt to plug the holes in the ship and try and get the sim running at some halfway decent level of performance, to which they largely succeeded by about 4 months ago (except people like me on mid level pc's still have significant problems, but at least people with high end machines seem to be having fun online)

to now try and use the 4 - 5 months wait for the rewrite of the complete game gfx engine as an reason to believe that all subsequent patches will take that long is obviously not rational or reasonable. taking these type of extreme troll-like positions is what usually makes it impossible to include you in normal constructive exchanges here

carguy_ · #9 03-03-2012, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zapatista

furbsy furbsy, you'r having a relapse of tree'itis
to now try and use the 4 - 5 months wait for the rewrite of the complete game gfx engine as an reason to believe that all subsequent patches will take that long is obviously not rational or reasonable. taking these type of extreme troll-like positions is what usually makes it impossible to include you in normal constructive exchanges here

I share your observation.

adonys · #10 03-03-2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zapatista

..to now try and use the 4 - 5 months wait for the rewrite of the complete game gfx engine as an reason to believe that all subsequent patches will take that long is obviously not rational or reasonable. taking these type of extreme troll-like positions is what usually makes it impossible to include you in normal constructive exchanges here

the rewrite of the core did no take only 4-5 months, they've probably started it 9 months go, after the last fast patches from the 3 months after the launch.

But 9 months is also too short of a time if they for example rewritten it from the scratch for DX11 (and not only using DX11's API, but using DX11 features like tessellation, etc). I've said it after game's launch, and I still believe it now, 1 year after, specially as what happened from then until now fits this theory best:

what we've seen launched as IL2CoD was actually a concept code, based on IL21946's code, slowly developed over time for testing various new systems with the old already available engine, with the intention to rewrite everything on clean from a certain point. Yet, when the plug was pulled, they've found out they won't finish it (the new engine) in time for the launch date, so they've dropped the new engine code for the moment, and entered in a frenzy to patch the concept one in order to can launch it. After the launch and the 3 months of trying to save the sinking boat, they've got back focused on writing to finish the new engine's code, which by now reached a core-ready state.