Weather Tests - Not for the middle or low end PC

[Buckie]

why should the sim struggle with clouds when every other sim manages clouds that look 100 times better than this? I really question the coding in this game.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Buckie

why should the sim struggle with clouds when every other sim manages clouds that look 100 times better than this? I really question the coding in this game.

It's a bug that was introduced a few patches back, I expect it will be another thing sorted by the new graphics engine which is why it hasn't been fixed yet.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by Dano

It's a bug that was introduced a few patches back, I expect it will be another thing sorted by the new graphics engine which is why it hasn't been fixed yet.

Dano mate, its not really a 'bug that was introduced a few patches ago' at all. The clouds have been crap and caused performance issues from day one (March last year when I bought the C.E. edition). The crapness was just somewhat 'amplified' by what seems to be the particle issues in the later patchs which also causes massive slowdowns with smoke for most people, but its always been a concern.

I fully expect the new graphics engine to resolve these issues a year on though, and have absolute faith that it will....Can't wait. Hope its tomorrow, but whats another few weeks or whatever. Of course it will be annouced as beta, but I'm confident given the reassurances by the devs that there should be quite massive improvement.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by Dano

No, the clouds as they are now are subject to the particle effect bug, same as dust. This was a bug introduced several patches back, before then they were fine.

No, they weren't. Just check the bug threads for instance....a great many people (myself included) had the 'flashing clouds' bugs amongst many other anomolies, they have always had a massively negative impact on FPS (even with just a few), and they have always been crap. Fact.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by Dano

The graphical issues were seperate to the fps issue, they did not always cause such a significant drop. Fact. Even my old E6600 and 8800GTS was capable of running with clouds early on. A great many people does not equal all. Jog on mate

lol....Think you need to 'jog along' mate.....Back to Narnia and La-la land if you think the clouds never caused big performance issues previously....despite all evidence to the contrary (no offence) I already stated the particle thing just made matters worse, you must have missed it.

Nevermind though, thats enough 'the clouds were always fine' revisionism and untruth for one day, tis the past and I'm sure we all look forward to the imminent improvements.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by Dano

Riiiight, so you admit I am right and that a prior patch caused significant issues with the clouds and yet you are still arguing with me...

Clouds before hand had about the same performance impact as they do in IL2 1946, oddly enough because it takes some power to render them, or do you expect them to be CPU/GPU time free? Cooupled with a failing engine already it just made matters worse.

Not sure what evidence you've provided other than to make some claims that do not in any way tally with my experience and oh wait, yours too given you just admitted that a prior patch caused a major issue with them.

*Sigh* Since you are apparently not even bothering to read what I am actually writing or paying attention......

Heres a reminder though

"Dano mate, its not really a 'bug that was introduced a few patches ago' at all. The clouds have been crap and caused performance issues from day one (March last year when I bought the C.E. edition). The crapness was just somewhat 'amplified' by what seems to be the particle issues in the later patchs which also causes massive slowdowns with smoke for most people, but its always been a concern.

'Oh wait', I'm not agreeing with you at all or 'admitting' anything .....I'm saying its always been an issue pre particle fiasco, the patch just made matters worse.

I'm happy for you that clouds have always been 'fine' your end, thats great Dano. I have great rig and its never been 'fine', so I somewhat doubt your assertion. The 'evidence' is all there in numerous bug threads on this forum, and many others. Like I say though, nevermind.....and I'm glad you are happy with mediocrity.

Roll on patch!

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by Dano

I'm the one not reading?

Err, Yes, I read that. What of it? Apart from it not being true, lol. Neither is 'they were fine'.

Y'know what.....it doesn't matter man. You think they were 'fine' previously, and that one of the previous patches was the cause, I don't. It just made it worse. I'm a bit bemused how a GTX580 couldn't do the job as well as your 8800 at the time, and make the performance 'fine', but its a crazy world we live in Dano. Thats Ok and we can agree to disagree I suppose.

Cheers.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by Dano

Or you can carry on making stuff up...

If ye say so mate, lol....Out.

[BigC208]

[QUOTE=Buckie;393254]why should the sim struggle with clouds when every other sim manages clouds that look 100 times better than this? I really question the coding in this game.[/QUOTE

It's not just cloud graphics but a whole weather system generator. Lots of stuff going on behind the curtains. Not sure if that is a smart thing with todays hardware but if they get it to work properly it could be brilliant. Weather related accidents killed more pilots in WWII than enemy action. It also altered targets and screwed up missions in progress. Realistic weather will make, transport, recon and other "non combat" missions more interesting. Be fun making a mision and putting in historic weather including high and low pressure areas and warm and cold fronts with the coresponding cloud formations. Probably 5 years away as far as hardware is considered but nice to know it could be done at some point.