IL-2 going Steam-powered

[LEXX]

How does The Steam bring new people to the sim?

I heard The Steam requires internet connection every time you play. Is this one of the things that can be configured? This could be Oleg making the wrong move, perhaps unintentionally, by taking another step toward abandoning his Offline customer base.

Now if The Steam offered Online Pay-To-Play, that would be a WHOPPING different story for Oleg's business.

[VMF-214_HaVoK]

Hmm not too long ago I was suggesting that Oleg used STEAM for SoW and many seemed opposed to the idea. What you think now? I think its a great idea for many reasons.

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[tater]

Being overly concerned about it connecting seems silly.

I'm actually (horrors!) a big fan of pay to play. I'd happily give them a constant revenue stream in return for constant development.

I'm maintained a WW2OL subscription since beta (i was a closed beta tester) just because I support such a cool idea. It can be pretty entertaining into the bargain

[Makabi]

Originally Posted by LEXX

How does The Steam bring new people to the sim?

it informs a larger amount of people about the existence of IL-2. believe it or not, it's really not that well known outside of the sim communities.

[Former_Older]

Originally Posted by Makabi

it informs a larger amount of people about the existence of IL-2. believe it or not, it's really not that well known outside of the sim communities.

I suppose the question then is:

can gamers be made to want a simulation that is no longer supported by it's developer because that developer is actively working on a replacement for the same sim that the gamers are being asked to buy?


This is like being asked to buy a system that the salesman tells you upfront is obsolete, and he is both expecting you to buy it AND become convinced that this obsolete system is so good, the replacement for it is worth buying

Tall order, my friend. 1C:Maddox Games is not overly concerned about selling it's old obsolete game. I should think they'd prefer you buy the new one- Storm of War

This is a UbiSoft deal to squeeze more dollars out of a lame duck. The effect can be exactly the opposite of what you suggest:

"This russian developer makes crap, just look at this old thing I bought! It's hard to play, and the sounds suck. How does a mission end? I can't raise my landing gear! the devs don't support it anymore even though I just bought it! And now they think I'm buying their NEW version in 6 months? Baloney!"

Sounds like another UbiSoft homerun to me...gamers will not like the sim in the majority of cases. Have they ever?? I've been playing PC sims since the early '80s. What does the sales results tell me?

Sims don't sell well

[Makabi]

where did I state that it would? please don't make assumptions just because you want to argue with somebody.

[Former_Older]

Originally Posted by Makabi

where did I state that it would? please don't make assumptions just because you want to argue with somebody.

Huh? Where did I say you would do what? What do you think I'm accusing you of? I don't recall saying you personally would, or would not, do anything

I recall saying that UbiSoft expects people to buy obsolete software, that Maddox games would rather push their new sim rather than their old one, and that gamers typically cannot be convinced to play sims for the sole reason that they are available

But I don't see where I said you stated that you'd do anything. have you misunderstood me here?

[Makabi]

Originally Posted by Former_Older

Huh? Where did I say you would do what? What do you think I'm accusing you of? I don't recall saying you personally would, or would not, do anything

re-read my post and I think you'll find that I said

Originally Posted by Makabi

where did I state that it would?

it, not I. 'it' referring to IL-2 selling well on Steam, in case you're still confused.

[RockStar]

New distribution channels are good I think. If they really want to sell more copies of 46, a wll placed ad or two on the history channel would bring them in groves.