The destructive power of Russian guns/cannons

[JtD]

The ShVAK has a bigger cartridge than the MG 151/20, but a smaller projectile.

[RPS69]

The only historical problem with the Russian armament in IL2, is from IL2-3M.

Those canons weren't synchronized. They were removed from the tank buster function to the anti shipping role. At least those were big enough to get some hits with asynchronous heavy guns.

In game, heavy tank killing is a child play with those canons.

[rga]

If you were testing against AI, keep in mind that AI damage control is poorly modelled. AI can still fly perfectly with a big hole in the wing and half rudder gone. And there is a rumor that Ace AI has defense bonus, though I'm not sure if it's right.

[Treetop64]

Originally Posted by rga

If you were testing against AI, keep in mind that AI damage control is poorly modelled. AI can still fly perfectly with a big hole in the wing and half rudder gone.

Have an example for this? My experience has consistently been the opposite, that if you blow "a big hole" in the wing of an AI aircraft it's flight performance suffers accordingly, though now it's much more plausibly so with the new patch than in previous versions.

And there is a rumor that Ace AI has defense bonus, though I'm not sure if it's right.

A rumor. And one that you're not even sure of. Why mention this at all?

[WTE_Galway]

In retrospect its kind of lucky the Luftwaffe did not push to make the Mauser MG 213C 30mm single barrel revolver cannon operational, else late war would have seen the Reich defense equipped with the equivalent of a 30mm Aden.

[Mustang]

MG 151 /20 is capable for many ammunitios




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[IceFire]

Which Wiki did that come from? Could you provide the link? Did it have any information on Japanese cannons?

I believe the MG151/20 in-game is modeled with all of those ammo types. If you do detailed testing you can note the individual types of impacts on aircraft with the API, HE, and Mine shells as they all have individual impact effects.

I ask about the Japanese cannons because if anything is going to get a makeover it's the lack of properly modeled Japanese guns. When Japanese planes were first put into IL-2 they added the closest equivalents...sometimes with slight modifications. So the Zero has, for a long time, been using the same MG-FF/M that the Bf109E uses. In real life the Type 99-1 and Type 99-2 (depending on model of Zero) is a related but different cannon. The same applies to the machine guns and turret mounted machine guns and cannons.

There are some Japanese cannons in-game but I'm not sure if they are modeled correctly either. The Ho-103 and Ho-5 are modeled for example but I'm not sure if the belting is correct. What is accurate is the German machine gun and cannon use in the Ki-61-Hei (MG151/20 imported cannons) and the turret gunner on the Ki-45 (flex mount was a German MG). For some strange reason the Ki-43-I uses the Ho-103 but the Ki-43-II uses a Browning .50cal with yellow tracers. It's weird

[swiss]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

In retrospect its kind of lucky the Luftwaffe did not push to make the Mauser MG 213C 30mm single barrel revolver cannon operational, else late war would have seen the Reich defense equipped with the equivalent of a 30mm Aden.

I wonder why there wasn't a gatling gun in WW2.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by swiss

I wonder why there wasn't a gatling gun in WW2.

Not reliable enough. There were some experiments, but nothing which was ready for operational use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker-Leimberger

http://www.kalashnikov.ru/upload/med...83/058_065.pdf