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Old 01-25-2012, 04:49 PM
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Well, in Il-2 WM 50 works a little differently and is only associated with higher boost settings. Don't expect to be able to run 10 minutes of high boost just because WM 50 is engaged with absolutely zero consequences, especially if you're slow and turning

If you do some reading as well you will find that the max continuous operation time could vary, and be as little as 5 minutes. There was a required "cold-down" period before it could be engaged again. Engines that went to full boost for any practical length of time developed cracks and fouled spark plugs and had to be overhauled. Engines that went to full boost without the WM 50 would have seized within a few minutes.

Anyway, I did a quick run in a Bf-109, and it was a full two minutes before the "Overheat!" message appeared (it is a bit conservative, BTW). A little over 15 minutes later, the fuel ran out (I spawned in the air with 50%). There was no loss of RPM or manifold pressure throughout the time that WM50 was engaged.

So what exactly is the problem again?

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Old 01-25-2012, 05:07 PM
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Well, in Il-2 WM 50 works a little differently and is only associated with higher boost settings. Don't expect to be able to run 10 minutes of high boost just because WM 50 is engaged with absolutely zero consequences, especially if you're slow and turning

If you do some reading as well you will find that the max continuous operation time could vary, and be as little as 5 minutes. There was a required "cold-down" period before it could be engaged again. Engines that went to full boost for any practical length of time developed cracks and fouled spark plugs and had to be overhauled. Engines that went to full boost without the WM 50 would have seized within a few minutes.

Anyway, I did a quick run in a Bf-109, and it was a full two minutes before the "Overheat!" message appeared (it is a bit conservative, BTW). A little over 15 minutes later, the fuel ran out (I spawned in the air with 50%). There was no loss of RPM or manifold pressure throughout the time that WM50 was engaged.

So what exactly is the problem again?
Who said I expected to run MW50 at 110% for ten minutes every time? But if you have ever lasted for 10 mins before the engine dying out in game, please upload the ntrk.

If 10 mins was historically a rare number that is extremely hard to achieve. Why would they include it into the manual? They must have already left some margin here. 10 mins should have been a quite common number during aircraft service that is not so difficult to achieve.

And we would like to see your ntrk for the test fly you described.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:44 PM
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Ok just conducted some tests, it IS due to the new proppitch.

If you dive with the ta152 at full throttle and auto-pp you will overrev the engine in no time, it only takes seconds.
It like i said below, high power=lowpitch, independent from what speed you're flying.
Manual pp during dives, on the other hand, keeps you out of troubles.


Not sure if this is correct?

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Old 01-25-2012, 05:56 PM
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Ok just conducted some tests, it IS due to the new proppitch.

If you dive with the ta152 at full throttle and auto-pp you will overrev the engine in no time, it only takes seconds.
It like i said below, high power=lowpitch, independent from what speed you're flying.
Manual pp during dives, on the other hand, keeps you out of troubles.


Not sure if this is correct?
With auto-prop-pitch planes, simply reduce the throttle in a dive. This lowers p-pitch and manifold pressure together. You really shouldn't have MP settings exceeding PP settings anyway.

@ Jermin - I can record a track later today.
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:03 PM
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With auto-prop-pitch planes, simply reduce the throttle in a dive. This lowers p-pitch and manifold pressure together. You really shouldn't have MP settings exceeding PP settings anyway.
I'm not complaining, like I said before I usually fly manual PP, sometimes even the 109. And no, I dont burn my engines, neither in 4.11 nor before.

The question is: Is it a bug or a feature?
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