P-51D into DCS Sims.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by xpzorg

can i ask you? why you like this plane?
It's not beautiful, bad maneuverable characteristics, but good speed.
Why this plane?

Why not....theres something for everyone in this world.

[Feathered_IV]

I rather think I'll buy that.

[xpzorg]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Why not....theres something for everyone in this world.

Best answerexplains it all/

[Sutts]

I'll probably support this one as well. The trouble is though, if it turns out to be modelled far more realistically than CloD and you enjoy using all the new bells and whsitles then it won't feel great going back to a simplified CloD model.

I am pleased with what 1c have given us in terms of CEM. However, I do think they need to tweak things a bit to make the figures match the manuals more accurately and add a few missing elements such as parking brake, priming etc. for those who like it full real.

The feeling of flight and superb sound of CloD will really take some beating in my opinion. I was bobbing around in the water the other day and was totally enthralled listening to a dogfight overhead - incredibly real. The new sound guy really deserves a medal.

Once they fix the outstanding issues then CloD should be hard to compete with - huge maps, large number of period objects and aircraft etc. Attention to detail.....

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Sutts

I'll probably support this one as well. The trouble is though, if it turns out to be modelled far more realistically than CloD and you enjoy using all the new bells and whsitles then it won't feel great going back to a simplified CloD model.

I am pleased with what 1c have given us in terms of CEM. However, I do think they need to tweak things a bit to make the figures match the manuals more accurately and add a few missing elements such as parking brake, priming etc. for those who like it full real.

The feeling of flight and superb sound of CloD will really take some beating in my opinion. I was bobbing around in the water the other day and was totally enthralled listening to a dogfight overhead - incredibly real. The new sound guy really deserves a medal.

Once they fix the outstanding issues then CloD should be hard to compete with - huge maps, large number of period objects and aircraft etc. Attention to detail.....

everything you described in the last half of your post 'won't' happen in the DCS sim, you will get a P-51 to fly and that's it.

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

everything you described in the last half of your post 'won't' happen in the DCS sim, you will get a P-51 to fly and that's it.

I think you're right there bongodriver. Still, a bit of competition on the realism front might keep 1c on their toes. I know for a fact that things like priming will have zero effect on game performance as the code only needs to run pre-startup. Great for immersion though - I'd love to be able to flood my engine through sloppy priming. They really are so close to the full startup procedure that it seems crazy not to go the full distance - with options of course for those who like things simpler.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Well if ED models that P51D in same detail as their other planes like A10C then we will have a nice plane to fly around with. And with modelling I mean all switches etc. working.

[Rjel]

I've been tooling around in FSX flying both the P-51b and P-51d from Warbirdsim. The plane models are amazing, fully the equal to CoDs in my opinion. But, I find myself wishing for an equally amazing damage model, guns and air combat. If ANYONE can produce a flightsim with those ingredients using A2A or Warbirdsim product as a base, I'm there. I think a lot of us feel an allegiance to IL2 to the extreme we don't think anyone else can do a WWII flightsim accurately. At this point, I think the market is there if someone has the ability to step in.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Rjel

I've been tooling around in FSX flying both the P-51b and P-51d from Warbirdsim. The plane models are amazing, fully the equal to CoDs in my opinion. But, I find myself wishing for an equally amazing damage model, guns and air combat. If ANYONE can produce a flightsim with those ingredients using A2A or Warbirdsim product as a base, I'm there. I think a lot of us feel an allegiance to IL2 to the extreme we don't think anyone else can do a WWII flightsim accurately. At this point, I think the market is there if someone has the ability to step in.

It's not about plane modelling only, however, it is the whole WW2 setting. And frankly, I rather have a larger collection of different aircraft, even if not detailed to the last bit, then only a very few ones with so many buttons that managing it becomes a choir.

[Flanker35M]

S!

So by the looks of it the DCS Mustang will be modelled very carefully from FM/DM to avionics and cockpit instrumentation and procedures Great news indeed! We are in for a treat from many fronts!