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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 01-20-2012, 03:15 PM
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BalackSix's reply means that luthier did not talk to him about any update before his post appeared. Logically this means that there is no big landmark reached yet. This means that any update will not bring sufficient news to make majority happy. This means that the update will not make any difference and logically there is no point in making one.

This is the update from me I can make it every Friday if you want

Seriously, it is not reasonable to ask for news. News appear only if any so called news-making events happen. Just imagine calling a news agency every 10 minutes and asking "do you have an update for us?" As soon as there are news you will get news. There is no point in just "sucking them out of a finger" as we say.

As far as I can see the updates policy is not to post every Friday useless "We are still working on this, that and that but small issues with that and this prevent us from issuing a patch yet. We do hope that these small issues would not cause any major disaster when pieces of code are assembled and tested together. As the tests are not 100% complete unfortunately we can not give you any ETA ATM because s**t usually happens in the very last moment as anyone working in the industry knows." It goes without saying if you think about it for a minute (maybe more).

It is reasonable that if there is no news there is no update. Luthier was too optimistic bringing some premature news too early in the past IIRC and probably learned some lessons. This is a good sign to me.

As wise men say "No news is good news."

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Old 01-20-2012, 03:17 PM
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I think the next big patch ("optimisation" patch) will be crucial......turning or failing point...they know that...
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Old 01-20-2012, 03:19 PM
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I think the next big patch ("optimisation") will be crucial......
Which is why they want to do it right instead of releasing it prematurely...
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Old 01-20-2012, 03:23 PM
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Mmmmm. Prematurely.
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Old 01-20-2012, 03:35 PM
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I think the next big patch ("optimisation" patch) will be crucial......turning or failing point...they know that...
IMHO next patch will not solve more than 50% of crucial issues. I hope there is a chance that BoM solves 90% if the team adopts Oleg's perfectionism and uncompromising quality control procedures.

Anyway looking at 3rd party addins and scripts by Banks, Small_Bee and others I am very confident in 3-5 years this engine provides the best flight-sim experience and fun ever imagined. Not to everyone of cause.

PS. RoF and DCS are good too.

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Old 01-20-2012, 04:11 PM
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It is reasonable that if there is no news there is no update. Luthier was too optimistic bringing some premature news too early in the past IIRC and probably learned some lessons. This is a good sign to me.

As wise men say "No news is good news."

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BalackSix's reply means that luthier did not talk to him about any update before his post appeared. Logically this means that there is no big landmark reached yet. This means that any update will not bring sufficient news to make majority happy. This means that the update will not make any difference and logically there is no point in making one.

This is the update from me I can make it every Friday if you want
It is reasonable for the to address the fact that there are many many unhappy people, and the small Friday updates atleast reassures people that the Devs are still there. The fact that most people seem to only want them to pop in and say hello every Friday, and maybe throw out the odd screenshot isnt to much to add when you look at everything we have had to endure with a fully purchased game.

Communication has gotten better, but I still think that it needs to improve.

A regular Friday update from this group is not an unreasonable request, in fact its probably deserved on our part after months and months of poor communication.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:53 PM
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It is reasonable for the to address the fact that there are many many unhappy people, and the small Friday updates atleast reassures people that the Devs are still there. The fact that most people seem to only want them to pop in and say hello every Friday, and maybe throw out the odd screenshot isnt to much to add when you look at everything we have had to endure with a fully purchased game.

Communication has gotten better, but I still think that it needs to improve.

A regular Friday update from this group is not an unreasonable request, in fact its probably deserved on our part after months and months of poor communication.
+1...what he said.
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+1....just make any old crap up and post it every friday, it won't change a thing anyway but at least it's 1 less thing....
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