4.11 General debugging

[Uzin]

Originally Posted by MicroWave

If anything, extra care was taken not to change the previous mechanics to make it easier for the mission builder.

As a mission builder I would say that the programmer did not made it easier, but much worse.
I do not like if anybode else says what is better for me.

[eduzk]

Moon phase bug: dark side faces the Sun, at least a few times on Leningrad winter.
(Also, a rotating starfield instead of static would be nice... )

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Its a flight simd and not a space sim, you wouldn even notice if the stars are rotating or not

[benson]

My apologies if I'm missing something obvious with the Patch, ( which incidently I am enjoying greatly ) but I don't have playable B17s B24s and some Russian heavy bombers.

[Uzin]

Again and again, end of the record of the QMB Scramble mission on Bessarabia map does not correspond what was flown in the mission. Have 4.11 +Hotfix, nothing else.

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by Uzin

Again and again, end of the record of the QMB Scramble mission on Bessarabia map does not correspond what was flown in the mission. Have 4.11 +Hotfix, nothing else.

Yep, I have the same problem. When I watch tracks with automatic view control they play just fine, but if I use manual view control and watch the tracks from outside the aircraft I was flying then anything can happen.

I have seen this before in years past when new patches came out. I remember in the original IL2 the training tracks quit working and the aircraft in them would crash, sort of amusing to watch while the commentary kept going on about what was supposed to be happening.

And I have seen it in other patches too. Seems like sometimes they change the flight models of the aircraft but the simulation has not been notified of it so it tries to fly them according to the way they flew in the last patch and it does not work out. My ideas might be simplistic and even wrong, but it is an actual problem in some patches whatever the reason for it....

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

In fact the 'old' track format isn't able to cope with all new features, especially not with those, that include some randomly made calculations. Track is rather an automatic 'play again', than a true record (which ntrack is instead). We tried to avoid the problems with it as much as we could, but it isn't possible 100%, as longs as we want to give you the new features. So in the end its just a sick horse, that we are pulling with us.
Personally I expect, that we will soon declare it as obsolete and completely stop support of it (means we will ignore it during development). Users are always recommended to use Ntrack format instead, even if its larger.

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Originally Posted by benson

My apologies if I'm missing something obvious with the Patch, ( which incidently I am enjoying greatly ) but I don't have playable B17s B24s and some Russian heavy bombers.

are you serious with your posting?!

[benson]

Originally Posted by 76.IAP-Blackbird

are you serious with your posting?!

"No of course not" he said.(Lying through his teeth)

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

my post was refering to yours and the infos inside this il2 forum. If you take just 3 mins and read the info about the B-17 and 24 .. you wouldnt ask such a question ... have you read the readme pdf? 4.11?

there is sometimes a hint what is in and what not

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=24281

the PDF you can find by yourself