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01-19-2012, 06:27 PM
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It seems -right now- that the bill probably won't be passed and rightly so. This is a victory for freedom on the internet and I bet for every try that those money mongering suits do to limit it will meet even stiffer and stiffer opposition. Here in Finland I've done what I've could, commenting on online news articles and informing people on why this SOPA (which actually translates directly to "garbage" in Swedish) bill is such a bad thing.
At the same time though, here in Finland, thepiratebay.org has been blocked by Elisa (which is a big ISP here) because they have been threatened to pay hefty fines by the "IFPI" (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry). It was a court order and Elisa had to comply or pay fines, they chose the former. Other ISP's here are under the same "threat" but nothing has come of it yet. Sadly, I have Elisa DSL connection so I can no more access the piratebay. It does not bother me in the sense that I can't download pirated music/software/games/movies, if I wanted to there are countless alternative sites.  IT DOES OUTRAGE ME THOUGH THAT IN A SO CALLED FREE AND MODERN SOCIETY AS FINLAND I CANNOT VISIT ANY WEBSITE I WANT, PIRATE SITE OR NOT PIRATE SITE. I AM ASHAMED OF HAVING TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHICH ROBS ME OF MY LIBERTIES ESPECIALLY IN SUCH A SNEAKY AND QUIET FASHION AS THIS COURT RULING."It's just one website and a pirate one as well" some might say. I see it as the beginning of the end of the free internet that we have had so far.
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01-19-2012, 06:35 PM
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01-19-2012, 06:37 PM
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01-19-2012, 07:22 PM
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It's not about pirate bay or intellectual theft...
It's about taking over communication between people. Radical extremists can't take over the country while allowing free speech to flourish. Mark Lloyd = http://radio.about.com/od/miscellane...Mark-Lloyd.htm I regret saying this. If this goes down and gets approved. You watch the EU and other countries fall into the same line. This is a biggy of the worst sort. A Saudi shiek just bought a 300,000,000 interest in Twitter. Why? Twitter and Facebook were the communication mechanism in the middle east revolutions in Egypt, Yemen, etc,etc. Saudi Arabia has enormous oil reserves. The extremists want to get hold of that country with all that oil wealth to wage their jihad? The facts aren't all in yet, but if the extremists get control in Libya... look out, because Libya has 9th largest oil reserves in the world. All that oil means lots of money to wage the Jihad. The internet is the free press of the entire world right now, except for China and a few others. Control the press and communication between the people is imperative to radicals. So yes! This legislation can have world changing impact on freedom of speech worldwide. Last edited by nearmiss; 01-19-2012 at 07:50 PM.
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01-19-2012, 07:58 PM
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I'm always amazed at the naivete of people who believe themselves to be smarter than everyone else. How freaking long can people really keep blaming George Bush for the failures of the present (and the past) administrations? Good job keeping this thread non political. The Socialists will get their wish and take this republic apart piece by piece, then blame the conservatives for the inevitable collapse. The sad part is that the inept bureaucracy and broken political system that is facilitating the whole thing so very well will have no idea what happened....... and neither will the majority of Americans.
I guess we deserve you Euro's derision. Good luck with your own inevitable collapse.
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01-19-2012, 08:12 PM
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There should be no cause for derision by EU, because the EU house of cards is falling as well. In fact, the entire world is on the Central banking system's "FIAT MONEY". Every country in the world has no collateral supporting it's money. The entire world's money supply is nothing, but promissory notes. The Central banks have made us all brothers holding each others IOUs. ------------------- I just got this email thought it might interest some of you Thank you so so much for joining the fight against SOPA and PIPA today! You are a part of the largest online protest in history. Because of you, we really might win this fight to protect our freedoms-- but we haven't won yet. Please, do these three things right now to make the strike even bigger: 1. Forward this email to as many friends as possible! Make sure they watch this video <http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/> . 2. Post to twitter <https://twitter.com/share?text=Join%20the%20largest%20online%20protest %20of%20all%20time%20-%20don't%20censor%20the%20internet!%20sopastrike.c om%20%23SOPASTRIKE> and post to facebook <https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?...sopastrike.com> - you can also follow us on Twitter <http://twitter.com/fightfortheftr> if you want more breaking news. Thank you again -- and stay tuned for more updates as we get ready for the next vote in Congress. - Fight for the Future - this video really turns the light on PIPA VIDEO <http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa> or here on Vimeo http://vimeo.com/31100268 Last edited by nearmiss; 01-19-2012 at 08:51 PM.
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01-19-2012, 08:24 PM
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Crazy ain't it.....everybody owes everybody else with interest and all the money owed doesn't even exist....or something like that.
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01-20-2012, 01:05 PM
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A tamer but similar "Government initiative" is underway down here in Australia, with Government attempting to install a "'net filter". Basically, its a URL lock out list employed at ISP level, kept in secret and in reality - open to all sorts of manipulation. This was being instigated under the old cry of "protecting the kiddies"... trouble is it doesn't do that anywhere near effectively, not even loosely effectively. Controlling the Press, is key to keeping the public under control and under thumb... lack of proper education being another tool used to "keep the people down", as it were. George Orwell wrote a book about what is happening... it is titled "Animal Farm". It is a marvelous, eye opening read (and no, its not an expose on socialism per se), it is an expose on "government" and the corruption of and subsequent abuse of power. Lack of education, makes it easy to change the rules whilst saying the rules are what the citizens respond to best... lack of clear facts (news, etc) feed Chinese Whispers and the two together, make it easy generate fear and sew doubt. We're at the stage now, where the tower has been destroyed by the shadowy militant inhibitants of the farm next door, that no citizen has ever seen, and has to be rebuilt twice as thick, Snowball has been chased off and the pups are about to start tearing out the throats of those who speak out.
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01-20-2012, 06:56 PM
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 Same pattern as in ww2. Always being the comboy. "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." - Churchill All in good fun. 
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