Battle for Moscow

Chivas · #1 01-17-2012, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Force10

Just curious where you get your info Chivas. Was there a post by Luthier that they released it in that state because they needed an influx of cash? I just can't imagine a company saying "We gave our customers the shaft, cause we needed the cash". Maybe a link?

Common sense, and eight+ years of following the development, and many rumors have strongly suggested that the sim couldn't keep going as is. A couple of times Oleg mentioned they were running out of time and money and COD had to be released soon. That time has long since come and gone. It was also rumored that the development had cost eight million dollars so far and you can't continue that with this very small genre. Its not hard to figure out what choices they had left. Luckily they chose to release what was done with the hope the influx of cash would keep the accountants at bay for the time being.

Force10 · #2 01-17-2012, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chivas

Common sense, and eight+ years of following the development, and many rumors have strongly suggested that the sim couldn't keep going as is. A couple of times Oleg mentioned they were running out of time and money and COD had to be released soon. That time has long since come and gone. It was also rumored that the development had cost eight million dollars so far and you can't continue that with this very small genre. Its not hard to figure out what choices they had left. Luckily they chose to release what was done with the hope the influx of cash would keep the accountants at bay for the time being.

Sorry but "common sense" "rumors" and "strongly suggested" don't make it a quantified fact as you make it out to be. Unless you really know what their financials are and can back it up, your just guessing so maybe you should phrase your statement as such. We don't know what Ubi kicked in, residual sales from 1946, other endevours etc. so lets not make them out to be on the brink of disaster unless we know, could do more harm then good

FS~Phat · #3 01-17-2012, 04:08 AM

Guys it's an interesting theory, but let's remember, they (1c) are still here, they havent left us, and this is still theory and speculation no matter how many times it gets uttered and bandied around as fact. The great thing is that they are still developing for the series!

von Pilsner · #4 01-17-2012, 04:11 AM

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lets not make them out to be on the brink of disaster unless we know, could do more harm then good

I could not agree more. Plus a lack of information seems to lead to much more speculation and rumors so maybe regular forum updates (even when they are just 'still working on the patch') would be helpful.

Chivas · #5 01-17-2012, 06:08 AM

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Sorry but "common sense" "rumors" and "strongly suggested" don't make it a quantified fact as you make it out to be. Unless you really know what their financials are and can back it up, your just guessing so maybe you should phrase your statement as such. We don't know what Ubi kicked in, residual sales from 1946, other endevours etc. so lets not make them out to be on the brink of disaster unless we know, could do more harm then good

Let me get this straight, your negative speculation is OK, LMFAO.

Feathered_IV · #6 01-17-2012, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Force10

Sorry but "common sense" "rumors" and "strongly suggested" don't make it a quantified fact as you make it out to be. Unless you really know what their financials are and can back it up, your just guessing so maybe you should phrase your statement as such.

There is plenty of material from Oleg, Luthier and even Jason Williams both here and at SimHQ to give a good understanding of development as related by Chivas.

Chivas · #7 01-17-2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Force10

Sorry but "common sense" "rumors" and "strongly suggested" don't make it a quantified fact as you make it out to be. Unless you really know what their financials are and can back it up, your just guessing so maybe you should phrase your statement as such. We don't know what Ubi kicked in, residual sales from 1946, other endevours etc. so lets not make them out to be on the brink of disaster unless we know, could do more harm then good

Its unfortunate that you can't see the honest speculation in some of my posts.

Common sense tells me the developer wouldn't risk releasing an unfinished product, unless it was absolutley necessary, knowing full well the negative publicity that would garner. Especially when they had plans to continue the series.

We know that the development has been delayed for years and that couldn't continue. Investors are simple not willing to carry a project that long.

furbs · #8 01-17-2012, 07:11 AM

Bugs are expected and are one thing.
missing or non working features are another.
features that still dont work after 8 months are still another thing.

Features that have to wait 2 years and to pay for a sequel is a...well make up your own mind.

Force10 · #9 01-17-2012, 07:17 AM

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Its unfortunate that you can't see the honest speculation in some of my posts.

Common sense tells me the developer wouldn't risk releasing an unfinished product, unless it was absolutley necessary, knowing full well the negative publicity that would garner. Especially when they had plans to continue the series.

We know that the development has been delayed for years and that couldn't continue. Investors are simple not willing to carry a project that long.

That's just it Chivas. I see it as speculation, you were telling us all it was a fact with the way you stated it. I just thought maybe you had something that backed it up as fact. I thought maybe UBI was pressuring 1C to just release the darn thing after 6 years of waiting or maybe they would pull out of distribution or something. Whatever man, just think maybe you should throw in a "IMO" if you don't really know.

Chivas · #10 01-17-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Force10

That's just it Chivas. I see it as speculation, you were telling us all it was a fact with the way you stated it. I just thought maybe you had something that backed it up as fact. I thought maybe UBI was pressuring 1C to just release the darn thing after 6 years of waiting or maybe they would pull out of distribution or something. Whatever man, just think maybe you should throw in a "IMO" if you don't really know.

Ok I'll share some insider information with you. If you don't see Luthiers name as the poster its more than likely speculation.