Waves too big

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by major_setback

[Posted earlier]

The waves look very unrealistic from high up. They should not be visible. They make the cliffs look much too small and as they are a crucial indication of the scale of objects they also give a wrong impression of altitude.

Weather conditions!

Im looking at this and the width height is five metres.

http://www.northseaweather.co.uk/


How can you compare a fine day with an image of the game?! Are your weather conditions the same? Thats like comparing a rough day with a calm day and saying its the same place so it should be the same. Your photo is from about 3 times the height and a different angle. Is the in game weather conditions working with the sea yet? Have you ever seen or been on the North sea? You take something as complex as weather and add a photo of a totally different weather front and think "thats how it must be"?

Have you even considered the complexity of it all?

[Skoshi Tiger]

I think the waves are too big which destroys our ability to judge heights.

Some definitions from bom.gov.au

Swell waves are the regular longer period waves generated by distant weather systems. There may be several sets of swell waves travelling in different directions, causing a confused sea state.

If the confused state we're seeing represents swells I'ld expect to see regular lines of swell comming in from the west and down from from the North sea and the confused state where they intersect.

Sea (or wind) waves are generated by the local prevailing wind and vary in size according to the length of time a particular wind has been blowing, the fetch (distance the wind has blown over the sea) and the water depth.

If what we are seeing are "Sea's" they would be accompanied with very high local winds, which are just not there.

I hope what we've got currently are just place holders. We need a realistic representation of both to be realistic.

Why?
First off, to be able to judge our height above the waves for keeping under the radar, and skip bombing etc. at the moment we're fudging it.

Second, we need "sea's" to be able to accuratly judge wind speed and direction when traveling over bodies of water. ( see Beaufort scale - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale)

Third, we need swells (well I do more than most ) to be depicted accurately because when your ditching your aircraft judging swell size and direction should play a major part in determining if you ditch successfully and survive the landing or plough in and die. At the moment waves, no matter how big, are just eye candy!


How important is getting this model accurate? At the moment the developers have got their hands full and I expect all the modeling aspects are way down the list. But Hopefully it would be simple to reduce the wave size so that it looks more like a 'average' day.

Cheers!

[5./JG27.Farber]

Yep your proberbly right.

If you actually want to know about beaufort you need to go here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpcAd__qHP0

[Skoshi Tiger]

That was very funny!

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Weather conditions!


Your photo is from about 3 times the height and a different angle.

In the pictures I posted before I believe the photo and screenshot are from the same part of the coast. So actually it is the photo that is taken from the nearest viewpoint. Compare the cliff height.


The swell should be smaller.



In the game it looks more like this - cliffs a few feet high:




Even in bad weather the swell is small compared to the height of the cliffs.

[5./JG27.Farber]

DOVER

Like Tiger said, its proberbly a place holder and is not working with the weather. In the FMB I have not looked into the weather system. Would be interesting to see if it either effects wave height and swell or not...

[Osprey]

We need this kind of swell lol This is Worthing Pier a few years ago, the bloke waited 3 years for the right conditions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7EO1O0i0jU

And Brighton Pier too....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZE81zEy4uk

How many have crossed the channel with the cars chained to the decks? Those swells are pretty big

[No1 Cheese]

[QUOTE=Osprey;380611]We need this kind of swell lol This is Worthing Pier a few years ago, the bloke waited 3 years for the right conditions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7EO1O0i0jU

Bloody hell,bet he was cold!!!!!

Cheese

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by major_setback

The waves look very unrealistic from high up. They should not be visible. They make the cliffs look much too small and as they are a crucial indication of the scale of objects they also give a wrong impression of altitude.

Exactly what I was trying to say in my first post.

Originally Posted by major_setback

In the pictures I posted before I believe the photo and screenshot are from the same part of the coast. So actually it is the photo that is taken from the nearest viewpoint. Compare the cliff height.


In the game it looks more like this - cliffs a few feet high:

This one demonstrates PERFECTLY the current state.

[5./JG27.Farber]

That is actually the cliffs of Dover, if you look closely you can see in the middle at the base of the cliff where a house has fell in from coastal errosion...