Red Tails Trailer #3

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

To rate a movie purley by it's financial performance is missing the point.

No, it's the ENTIRE point. Movies made for rivet counters don't make lots of money. That's why very few are made.

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

No, it's the ENTIRE point. Movies made for rivet counters don't make lots of money. That's why very few are made.

Like I said, if you're judging a movie purley based on what it took at the box office then you're making the exact same mistake as Hollywood is.

Who said anything about movies made for Rivet counters?
I'm talking..
Blade Runner, poor at the box office
Shawshank Redemption, bombed
Donnie Darko, 2 theatrical releases - took around a million (US).
The Big Lebowski, very average takings
Resevoir Dogs, 1.5 million(US)

Top 5 grossing movies of all time. (The best 5 movies ever made, if money is the ENTIRE point)
1. Avatar, jeez
2. Titanic, my heart won't go on..
3. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, people need to grow up.
4. Transformers Dark of the moon, obviously waaay better than Citizen Kane
5. Lord of the Rings Return of the king, it... never... ends..

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

Top 5 grossing movies of all time. (The best 5 movies ever made, if money is the ENTIRE point)

It is the ENTIRE point. It's the only way we have to determine if lots of people like the movie. Whether or not it's a "good" movie is just your opinion. I thought Blade Runner sucked.

[David Hayward]

Speaking of great movies...

Moonrise Kingdom

I'll let you figure it out.

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It is the ENTIRE point. It's the only way we have to determine if lots of people like the movie. Whether or not it's a "good" movie is just your opinion. I thought Blade Runner sucked.

No it's the only way to determine how many people went to see it or how many people bought the marketing campaign, nobody knows how many liked it. I saw Avatar and Titanic at the cinema, hated them both, according to you I liked both these films because I paid to see them.

Why have the Academy Awards? We don't need opinion getting in the way of making billions of dollars. Just give all the Oscars to the highest grossing movie of the year, job done.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

No it's the only way to determine how many people went to see it or how many people bought the marketing campaign, nobody knows how many liked it. I saw Avatar and Titanic at the cinema, hated them both, according to you I liked both these films because I paid to see them.

Why have the Academy Awards? We don't need opinion getting in the way of making billions of dollars. Just give all the Oscars to the highest grossing movie of the year, job done.

I never said that everyone who goes to a movie likes it, but it's certainly the best indication of how many people liked a movie. The Oscars are just the opinions of a well-connected group of people.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Most main stream stuff is utter s%^&.

"A fool and his money are soon parted..."

Its not about how much money a film made or how many people saw it. Its about what it ment to you and why you remember it. However even then filmakers have "artistic license" which is another word for b"^^$&!^...

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Most main stream stuff is utter s%^&.

"A fool and his money are soon parted..."

Its not about how much money a film made or how many people saw it. Its about what it ment to you and why you remember it. However even then filmakers have "artistic license" which is another word for b"^^$&!^...

+1 take Avatar, the way they talked about that film.. and what did we get a story that has been done 20000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Times before..... OHHHH 3D that made the same dull pathetic story sooo much better

[Kodoss]

@David Hayward:
I can't watch apple related trailers, cose I'm not commercialy brainwashed and own one.

So could you please use links to free/standard players.

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I never said that everyone who goes to a movie likes it, but it's certainly the best indication of how many people liked a movie. The Oscars are just the opinions of a well-connected group of people.

It's not an indication, it's an assumption.
You're the one who said money was the entire point. It is simply not true.
Nobody comes out of a film they've seen and liked and then changes their mind because it didn't do so well financially. The top grossing movies of all time contradict your point. Compare any online Best films of all time lists. That's a better indication. You may see films as a transaction, I see them as an art form.

I judge them on what I get from them, not how much they took from us.

You seem to like dropping grenades into conversations, you've said all Germans were Nazis, in a roundabout way. Completely disregarding the fact that to stand up against Hitler meant certain death, for you and most probably your family.
Are you personally responsible for all the bad things your government has done in your life time? It seems to me you'll say anything.

If you want to live in a world where everyone gets tarred with the same brush and the only value of art is financial then fine, but stop the world first coz I'm getting off.