Red Tails Trailer #3

[zauii]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

It's a story about how America treated a racial minority like crap. How does that scream "America, we are the best time 10"? It seems to me that it screams "America, wtf???"

Seriously watch the trailers again.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Considering that they invaded most of Europe and killed millions, I'm betting that the Germans will be the bad guys.

Which is exactly what makes a bad movie. I'd surely like to see a a series made in the similar -> style <- of Band of Brothers but from the German or Japanese perspective instead.
Dive into the group/individuals experience but skip the political business. The reason for why its almost never been done before (both for movies, games) is because everyone is scared of how the public will react.

I don't deny the facts and I do not agree with what they did and their politics but you can tell stories without acting like it's Star Wars. The same goes for games,
most people feel fed up with fighting the "Russians" or "Germans" as the evil nation while the American hero saves the day for the 69th million time.

Part reason why i enjoy simulators without any story or games that can actually portray both sides in a fair and respectable way(ie RO2).

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by zauii

Which is exactly what makes a bad movie. I'd surely like to see a a series made in the similar -> style <- of Band of Brothers but from the German or Japanese perspective instead.

When you start a war that kills millions of people you're probably not going to be portrayed as the good guys in the movies that follow the war,

[zauii]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

When you start a war that kills millions of people you're probably not going to be portrayed as the good guys in the movies that follow the war,

Thats not the point jeeze , you seriously don't get it?

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I watched it repeatedly. You're only seeing what you want to see.

I think its the other way around bud.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by zauii

Thats not the point jeeze , you seriously don't get it?

Yes, that is the point. Losing wars has consequences. One of those consequences is that the winners make movies that do not reflect well on the losers. And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

Whole Germany wanted War with everyone else, hell, even little unborn Irma living next door wanted War and the reigning Sociopath just followed that call

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by FFCW_Urizen

Whole Germany wanted War with everyone else, hell, even little unborn Irma living next door wanted War and the reigning Sociopath just followed that call

Whole Germany may not have wanted war, but whole Germany followed the sociopath to war.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Yes, that is the point. Losing wars has consequences. One of those consequences is that the winners make movies that do not reflect well on the losers. And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

hmmmmmm....

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

hmmmmmm....

What about it? It was a good movie, but it didn't do much ($10 million) at the box office. Pearl Harbor made $200 million in the US alone.

[KG26_Alpha]

Yea but I can stand to watch Das Boot after all this time, cant be said for the other one though, Tora Tora Tora beats it hands down as a direct comparison.



imho
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[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

What about it? It was a good movie, but it didn't do much ($10 million) at the box office. Pearl Harbor made $200 million in the US alone.

Oh? It was a good movie? And enough ppl wanted to watch it to make it a financial success achieving 10million when it came out in the 80ies?

What happend to "And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars."?

What about Valkyrie, the Tom Cruise one, making almost $200.000 world wide?