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Old 01-01-2012, 09:28 PM
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I've seen some pics of BoB with C3 109s but, I think it was rare.

(I was hurt for a long time and I am trying it post again. Sometimes my post dont make a lot of sense. )
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Old 01-01-2012, 10:26 PM
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The 109E sitting in the crash scene in the hanger at Duxford was a C3 machine.
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Old 01-02-2012, 12:54 AM
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The 109E sitting in the crash scene in the hanger at Duxford was a C3 machine.
C3 109s were scarcer than chickens with teeth.

The following Spitfire and Hurricane squadrons are known to have used 100 octane fuel before or during the BoB:

1, 17, 19, 41, 43, 54, 56, 64, 65, 66, 72, 73, 74, 79, 85, 87, 92, 141, 145, 151, 152, 222, 229, 234, 245, 249, 264, 303, 602, 603, 605, 609, 610, 611, 616

These squadrons were stationed at the following airfields at sometime during the BoB.


11 Group

RAF Biggin Hill

- RAF Gravesend
- RAF West Malling

RAF Debden

- RAF Martlesham Heath

RAF Hornchurch

- RAF Hawkinge
- RAF Manston
- RAF Gravesend
- RAF Rochford

RAF Kenley

- RAF Croydon

RAF Northolt

- RAF Hendon

RAF North Weald

- RAF Martlesham
- RAF Stapleford

RAF Tangmere

- RAF Westhampnett
- RAF Ford - Bristol Blenheim
- RAF Thorney Island - Bristol Blenheim
- Lee on Solent, RN airfield
- Gosport, RN airfield

Not sure which Sector airfield these were assigned to but as all the sector airfields had 100 octane fuel, so these to would need a stock of 100 octane fuel.

RAF Detling
RAF Eastchurch
RAF Lympne

In 10 Group, 5 of the 6 airfields had stocks of 100 octane fuel.

In 12 Group, 7 of the 8 airfields had stocks of 100 octane fuel.

In 13 Group, 7 of the 10 airfields had stocks of 100 octane fuel. Of the 3 that possible didn't have stocks of 100 octane fuel, one was based in the Shetland Is. and the other in the Orkney Is.
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Old 01-02-2012, 10:19 AM
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The 109E sitting in the crash scene in the hanger at Duxford was a C3 machine.
It is not version with Db601N engine?
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:22 PM
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Molders unit used E4/Ns with 96 octane starting 7 September. 96 octane was in "short supply". (JG26 War Diary, Caldwell)

I don't thing that 109s should be used game. Maybe a E4/N or E7 model for late BoB?

More pilots should use Bf109e1. A large percentage of BoB pilots used them.

(Just my opinion)
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:18 PM
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More pilots should use Bf109e1. A large percentage of BoB pilots used them.

(Just my opinion)
Agreed and oft posted, especially before we actually got the E1.

Needs to be set by mission builders server side more, but you know what online is like, everyone wants the latest/best.

Its why il2 online for so long was Fw190D9's ans 109K4's vs La7's and Spit25lbs.

History is an interesting side note......
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:57 PM
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The way i would prefer it is to be able to set fuel parameters for the flyables, quite similar to loadouts, and then make the whole lot possible to be enforced by the server.

Regardless of what we choose to fly, giving us the ability to run overboosted power settings in every case is as unrealistic as running a full belt of DeWilde or minen shells and it's one of the rare cases where historically accurate also means better for playability.

It would be really cool if loadouts and type of fuel for each airbase with a spawn point could be enforced server side.

Failing that, we could do with modified copies of the same flyable in a new slot. So for example, we would end up with a 100 octane Spit and an 87 octane spit in the aircraft selection menu, where the 100 oct version would be a mere copy of the 87 oct 3d model with a few numbers altered in the FM files, ie it's not that much work and it also allows the mission designer to limit the amount of high power versions. Similar for the axis side and then we'd be set.

This would also allow people who script dynamic missions to spice things up a bit. For example, if you fail to protect your convoys (RAF) or fuel supply trains (LW), a script could lower the amount of high powered versions simultaneously available based on friendly ground target losses, thus reflecting a shortage of high grade fuel.

I guess we'll see how it's handled once the FM revisions take hold, but either solution i would be ok with. The first method would be slightly preferable for me, because then we might be able to load different grades of fuel in different tanks (just like it was done on the Blenheims for long range sorties, 87 octane in the inner tanks and 100 octane in the outer tanks).
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Old 01-01-2012, 10:59 PM
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(I was hurt for a long time and I am trying it post again. Sometimes my post dont make a lot of sense. )
I'm sorry too hear that, over the years i've read many posts by you regarding the Fw190 which were essential reading lurking over at Cwos and at ubi, hope things are better,

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