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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 12-26-2011, 10:00 AM
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plus is the only pacific scenario ive played in 1946 that wasnt a massacre for the japanese.
After Midway, the rest of war was a massacre for the Japanese Air Forces.

+ 1 for New Guinea theater.

BTW - Excerpts from Black Cross/Red Star (Ostfront) books: http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/...l3excerpt3.htm

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The Pacific would be nice, and in the same vein as what Europe proposes to be, with packs released covering the major battles/ fronts in order of historical development.
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One thing i really miss with CoD is the planesets from the pacific. The difference in tactics required is stark in the midwar years- the USA planes are heavily armoured and dive like banshees, but the Japanese planes are nimble and pack a killer punch.
I really enjoyed the online battles regularly swapping sides and adopting the different tactics required. With any luck the CoD series will move into the pacific theatre to give us that opportunity again (i notice the list of key commands includes things like arrestor hooks and seat height adjustment, so that's a good sign).
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hey guys!can you please enlighten me and tell me what the Northrop-Grumman problem is?
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hey guys!can you please enlighten me and tell me what the Northrop-Grumman problem is?

Read this:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=27537
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thx for the link!interesting and disappointing at the same time.never heard of it before.
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hey guys!can you please enlighten me and tell me what the Northrop-Grumman problem is?
Now that you know the history, the really sad thing is that there didn't need to be a problem. Everyone else would just tell NG, "These are aircraft were built 70 years ago with taxpayer money, go screw yourself" and things were ok. 1942 PAW, Pacific Strike, etc. were all chock full of NG aircraft. It's just that UBI threw Oleg under the bus.
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You have any good recommended reads? To date, I have only LW stuff, and stuff from the Pacific theatre, but the cursory investigations I've done on the Eastern front are eye-popping, even in just numbers and distances. I'm looking for a good read from the VVS point of view to give me some perspective.
I recommend watching this film It does not feature authentic aircraft but the war and people look authentic (a bit idealised of cause). If you like it I can find 1-2 more probably.

As a child I was reading memoirs of Pokryshkin, Kozhedub, Golubev (about Pokryshkin), Vorozheikin or about those who died too young to write memoirs like Lydia Litvyak, 21 or Yekaterina Budanova, 26.

Most of these memoirs are not translated into English yet. You can find a couple of memoir books on amason though. Also there is a series on soviet aces published. Try googling "soviet fighter memoirs" and\or "vvs aces memoirs". Most of these books were published during soviet times and you have to skip some propaganda pages when reading.

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Not really from a VVS perspective, other than a 'VVS Fighter Aces of WWII' type book, but a good read generally is 'A Writer at War' from actual notes made at the time by war correspondent for Krasnya Zvezda, Vasily Grossman.

Superb book. Most of my other research was online via links from good ole wiki.
Vasily Grossman's Life and Fate banned and confiscated by KGB it was secretly taken outside the USSR, published in the west, then dramatised on BBC radio and even made UK best-selling lists. It is about the most ruthless battle in the history of mankind - Stalingrad (Germany - total 841,000 casualties, USSR - total 1,129,619 casualties). If you want to read one book about the Eastern front (or about any war in general) I recommend this one. It is not the shortest but it is worth reading even in small portions. One of characters is a fighter pilot too.
Wiki article on Life and Fate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_and_Fate

Since La-5 was first introduced in Stalingrad I guess it can be the next theatre in the Il-2 series.

Regarding Eastern Front role in the war in general estimated Nazi losses on Eastern/Western front are 4,428,000 to 5,178,000+ for Eastern / 997,386 to 1,000,256 for Western according to English wiki (I know this is not 100% reliable). I think aircraft and armour losses are more or less proportional to some extent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern...orld_War_II%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western...orld_War_II%29

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If want to read about IL-2 Sturmovik piloting at the front I can recommend Vasili B. Emelianenko's book "Red Star against the Swastika - The story of a Soviet pilot over the Eastern Front". Greenhill Books published the english version of it 2005.

This book has less of this idealised stuff in it and quite nicely tells about the life of IL-2 pilots and the plane so was a nice read. The quote of another IL2 engagement vs 109 someone posted in one thread was just the poo-poo I stay clear from.
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I recommend watching this film It does not feature authentic aircraft but the war and people look authentic (a bit idealised of cause). If you like it I can find 1-2 more probably.

As a child I was reading memoirs of Pokryshkin, Kozhedub, Golubev (about Pokryshkin),
Most of these memoirs are not translated into English yet. You can find a couple of memoir books on amason though. Also there is a series on soviet aces published. Try googling "soviet fighter memoirs" and\or "vvs aces memoirs". Most of these books were published during soviet times and you have to skip some propaganda pages when reading.



Vasily Grossman's Life and Fate banned and confiscated by KGB it was secretly taken outside the USSR, published in the west, then dramatised on BBC radio and even made UK best-selling lists. It is about the most ruthless battle in the history of mankind - Stalingrad (Germany - total 841,000 casualties, USSR - total 1,129,619 casualties). If you want to read one book about the Eastern front (or about any war in general) I recommend this one. It is not the shortest but it is worth reading even in small portions. One of characters is a fighter pilot too.
Wiki article on Life and Fate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_and_Fate

Since La-5 was first introduced in Stalingrad I guess it can be the next theatre in the Il-2 series.

Regarding Eastern Front role in the war in general estimated Nazi losses on Eastern/Western front are 4,428,000 to 5,178,000+ for Eastern / 997,386 to 1,000,256 for Western according to English wiki (I know this is not 100% reliable). I think aircraft and armour losses are more or less proportional to some extent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern...orld_War_II%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western...orld_War_II%29
Hey and what abt Constantin Simonov ? One of the greatest book on soldier at war I ever read. Stylish as an Hemingway. I understand that his past is somewhat controversial but outside Russia this has no impact - he is largely unknown. His saga is more easy to read than Vasily G

Grossman does too much of an emphasis some time making the text hard and boring to read on some paragraph (might be something lost in the translation thus) without mentioning the thousands of different characters found in his saga very much à la TolstoÏ .

We shld hve a thread abt books etc...

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