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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 12-25-2011, 02:58 PM
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agree with both theatres. i have no interest in the moscow thang !.

give me corsairs, dauntless, zero's, kamikaze's, Carriers & "islands" (imagine the performance of the sim simply with islands.)

sim heaven for me.
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Old 12-25-2011, 03:02 PM
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Ali Fish, the New Guinea campaign had almost no naval involvement.

It's the beauty of it, because we won't have to worry about the Northrop-Grumman problem.

It's the only way I can see Maddox Games ever returning to the Pacific area. China would work, except for the political issue of the Reds not allowing the Nationalist markings on AVG and CAF aircraft.
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Ali Fish, the New Guinea campaign had almost no naval involvement.

It's the beauty of it, because we won't have to worry about the Northrop-Grumman problem.

It's the only way I can see Maddox Games ever returning to the Pacific area. China would work, except for the political issue of the Reds not allowing the Nationalist markings on AVG and CAF aircraft.

I think you may be on to something
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Old 12-26-2011, 01:19 AM
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Yup, i will take the Eastern Front followed by North Africa, over the Pacific any day of the week!

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Old 12-26-2011, 01:36 AM
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Our western history and it's ignorance of the contributions of the Red Army/VVS is deplorable. The new theatre (I'm only opposed to not getting all the fixes in the current game, nothing wrong with getting the Eastern Front itself) is a great oppurtunity to learn about the most vicious air war in the history of man. That's where the real meat grinder was that chewed the Third Reich up.
Couldn't agree more mate. Flying the old IL2 series made me research the Eastern front in depth, and I couldn't believe how dismissive of the importance of it my historical upbringing had been. No doubt down to cold war suppression of the facts.
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Old 12-26-2011, 02:18 AM
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Not really from a VVS perspective, other than a 'VVS Fighter Aces of WWII' type book, but a good read generally is 'A Writer at War' from actual notes made at the time by war correspondent for Krasnya Zvezda, Vasily Grossman.

Superb book. Most of my other research was online via links from good ole wiki.
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WHat you guys need is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Cross-Re.../dp/0935553487

First volume got a bit expensive. Still the best book series on the airwar over the eastern front available.
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It's a great suggestion. New Guinea is a very interesting area and I was disappointed to not have it when Pacific Fighters shipped. Yeah we have the initial Port Moresby area covered but the majority of the fighting happened further to the north west.

North Africa is also high on my list.

And... you know the battles in China and Burma were very interesting and hardly ever covered although I suspect political interference would probably kill any official expansion into this realm.
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It's a great suggestion. New Guinea is a very interesting area and I was disappointed to not have it when Pacific Fighters shipped. Yeah we have the initial Port Moresby area covered but the majority of the fighting happened further to the north west.


One of the war stories from New Guinea was recently published, and may be a good read. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lost...off/1100151860
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im more interested in a coral sea/ midway battle ( i cnat remenber the name of the maps

but the planese would be about 4 - 5 planes long, 2 or 3 carriers would be needed, minimum map effort ( its all water plus a few island), and lots of fighting.

plus is the only pacific scenario ive played in 1946 that wasnt a massacre for the japanese.
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