The Crystal Ball

[Force10]

This is really sad. Since when is telling a developer that if they don't fix certain parts of a game, that they won't buy a sequel a banworthy offense? As unpleasant as it might be for them to hear, it would seem like important info for them to know. Granted, some are more nasty than others, but it has gotten to the point where even a well constructed negative post is met with harsh responses provolking even more negative feelings.

Silence has never accomplished anything in this world. So lets face some facts:

:CLOD was one of the worst "perceived" flight sim launches in recent history

:Just about everyone said the same thing, tons of potential, but don't worry, they will fix it. To us in the flight sim world, that meant they will patch it.

:If 1C forces players to buy a sequel before fixing some fundemental things, they will lose customers...a lot of them. I'm not talking just about the "whiners" (as anyone who has a problem is labeled) I'm also talking about people that have never been on a forum and when seeing a sequel will just remember "CLOD never ran very good and was missing some stuff so I'll pass"

You may call me a whiner if you like, but the fact is I want CLOD to succeed. I took a quick flight an hour ago and the cockpits and feeling of flight is unrivaled IMO. As good as it is though, I will not purchase a sequel until a decent amount of things are fixed...it doesn't have to be near perfect, just better.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by force10

this is really sad. Since when is telling a developer that if they don't fix certain parts of a game, that they won't buy a sequel a banworthy offense? As unpleasant as it might be for them to hear, it would seem like important info for them to know. Granted, some are more nasty than others, but it has gotten to the point where even a well constructed negative post is met with harsh responses provolking even more negative feelings.

Silence has never accomplished anything in this world. So lets face some facts:

:clod was one of the worst "perceived" flight sim launches in recent history

:just about everyone said the same thing, tons of potential, but don't worry, they will fix it. To us in the flight sim world, that meant they will patch it.

:if 1c forces players to buy a sequel before fixing some fundemental things, they will lose customers...a lot of them. I'm not talking just about the "whiners" (as anyone who has a problem is labeled) i'm also talking about people that have never been on a forum and when seeing a sequel will just remember "clod never ran very good and was missing some stuff so i'll pass"

you may call me a whiner if you like, but the fact is i want clod to succeed. I took a quick flight an hour ago and the cockpits and feeling of flight is unrivaled imo. As good as it is though, i will not purchase a sequel until a decent amount of things are fixed...it doesn't have to be near perfect, just better.

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[JG52Krupi]

I am sorry I seemed to have missed the well constructed post through all the tears and toy throwing....

Why reiterate your anger everyday? We know your opinion so why fill these forums with the same negative information, it only leads to the "fanboy" posters coming along to say everything is working perfectly.

The game is being worked on just be patient....

[klem]

Originally Posted by Force10

This is really sad. Since when is telling a developer that if they don't fix certain parts of a game, that they won't buy a sequel a banworthy offense? As unpleasant as it might be for them to hear, it would seem like important info for them to know. Granted, some are more nasty than others, but it has gotten to the point where even a well constructed negative post is met with harsh responses provolking even more negative feelings.

Silence has never accomplished anything in this world. So lets face some facts:

:CLOD was one of the worst "perceived" flight sim launches in recent history

:Just about everyone said the same thing, tons of potential, but don't worry, they will fix it. To us in the flight sim world, that meant they will patch it.

:If 1C forces players to buy a sequel before fixing some fundemental things, they will lose customers...a lot of them. I'm not talking just about the "whiners" (as anyone who has a problem is labeled) I'm also talking about people that have never been on a forum and when seeing a sequel will just remember "CLOD never ran very good and was missing some stuff so I'll pass"

You may call me a whiner if you like, but the fact is I want CLOD to succeed. I took a quick flight an hour ago and the cockpits and feeling of flight is unrivaled IMO. As good as it is though, I will not purchase a sequel until a decent amount of things are fixed...it doesn't have to be near perfect, just better.

Its not the statements, its the constant drip-drip repetition that is getting many of us fed up with hearing it.

As for icarus, we have been told there will be a patch so "no patch=fail" (again!) is meaningless and irritating and it is also expected that the sequel will bring with it more core improvements for the total game.

The "no patchers" need to be patient. None of us like it but thats the way it is.

And no-one is forcing anyone to buy a sequel. I would hope that a patch would be released to cover any "sequel" core improvements for those that don't buy it.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Force10

This is really sad. Since when is telling a developer that if they don't fix certain parts of a game, that they won't buy a sequel a banworthy offense? As unpleasant as it might be for them to hear, it would seem like important info for them to know. Granted, some are more nasty than others, but it has gotten to the point where even a well constructed negative post is met with harsh responses provolking even more negative feelings.

Silence has never accomplished anything in this world. So lets face some facts:

:CLOD was one of the worst "perceived" flight sim launches in recent history

:Just about everyone said the same thing, tons of potential, but don't worry, they will fix it. To us in the flight sim world, that meant they will patch it.

:If 1C forces players to buy a sequel before fixing some fundemental things, they will lose customers...a lot of them. I'm not talking just about the "whiners" (as anyone who has a problem is labeled) I'm also talking about people that have never been on a forum and when seeing a sequel will just remember "CLOD never ran very good and was missing some stuff so I'll pass"

You may call me a whiner if you like, but the fact is I want CLOD to succeed. I took a quick flight an hour ago and the cockpits and feeling of flight is unrivaled IMO. As good as it is though, I will not purchase a sequel until a decent amount of things are fixed...it doesn't have to be near perfect, just better.

I think nearmiss was refering to complainers with a track record of stirring the pot for the sake of stirring the pot. Many poster, who've been here for years, haven't posted many positive remarks in their whole tenure here. Some are just down right derrogetory. I'd not consider an honest opinion something to worry about. Constructive critisism is always wanted.

As klem says, it's the drip drip drip.

Not to pick on any one person or topic, but there's a post here regarding getting CoD as a gift for your friends. The original poster may have had perfectly good intensions, but a topic like that is like chum in shark infested waters for some of the naysayers. To be fair, some of us 'faithful' can be pretty argumentative too and need the same warning.

With almost 9 months of the same drip drip drip I don't blame the frustration on the moderators. We've gone though probably 5/6 since 2008ish. Most only lasted a few weeks. nearmiss has been here like forever.