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Old 12-03-2011, 07:37 PM
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It's so bizarre, the Japanese had good intelligence on our industrial capacity, the number of men we had, and could add to our armed forces, the fact that we had our own domestic fuel supply and large refining capacity, and yet they chose to go to war with us anyway, based solely on their preconceptions of our lack of will to make war.

So many more questions get raised when new info becomes available.

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Old 12-05-2011, 04:54 AM
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El, I think that the Japanese generals at the time knew that they could not win a prolonged war so decided to launch one massive coordinated attack to set the US back some months from even being able to respond coherently. They could shore up their territorial gains in the South Pacific and maybe the US public wouldn't have the stomach for war on two fronts.

They were counting on doing more damage at PH then they managed, especially the carriers.

They also miscalculated the US's resolve and willingness to accept casualties.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:36 AM
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and yet they chose to go to war with us anyway,
Like they had a choice...
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Old 12-05-2011, 04:45 PM
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Like they had a choice...
lol exactly my thought

C'mon guys, do you really think that the US would have done their best to stay out of WW2? If it wasn't Pearl Harbor they would have done something else.

Let's not forget that at the time Japan had dominance over pretty much the whole Pacific, they surely underestimated the capability to fight that the Navy and Marines had, nonetheless they made it a hard one to win, way harder than how it was in the ETO.
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Old 12-05-2011, 05:48 PM
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lol exactly my thought

C'mon

... nonetheless they made it a hard one to win, way harder than how it was in the ETO.
My grandfather said there were only 2 times he was really scared during WWII, 1st was a 109 lining up to strafe him, 2nd was when he was told he was going to the PTO, thankfully he didn't have to.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:31 PM
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My grandfather said there were only 2 times he was really scared during WWII, 1st was a 109 lining up to strafe him, 2nd was when he was told he was going to the PTO, thankfully he didn't have to.
wow, sounds like a scary situation your granpa was in!
care to tell us more?
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:12 PM
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wow, sounds like a scary situation your granpa was in!
care to tell us more?
He was an Anti Aircraft Gunner/Driver. He went over on D-Day +6. He was in Holland or France (sadly I can't remember which). He was stood next to his Bedford lorry (which towed a Bofors AA Gun) when he noticed a "Spitfire" circling, he waved at it and at that point realised it was a lone 109.

He said he froze for a split second as he realised it was lining up on him. He dived underneath the truck on the first pass before jumping up onto his gun and returning fire. The 109 didn't come back round for another go. (I guess my Grandad was a target of opportunity for somebody on thier way home!)

His total tally for the war, 2 'kills' and one 'damaged' (all for some reason 109's) The 2 kills were both in Holland some time after Market Garden.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:46 AM
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I find it amusing that no one in Europe (at least as far as this thread is concerned) seems to think that perhaps some people in the States might have had a positive motive for wanting to get involved in WWII. I dunno, like perhaps saving your asses?

No, that's not possible. My bad.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:50 AM
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+1

Yes we know that in Eu. Be sure of tht.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:25 AM
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It would be interesting to know would be how many false alarms and miss information had been recieved in the months leading up to the attack and what measures were taken to verify the validity of the information.

Within a couple of days the Japanese had invaded Thailand, British Mayasia AND attacked Pearl Harbour.

In the time eading up to the 7/8th there would have been activity all over the asia pacific region. I wonder which reports would have been taken most seriously?

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