Switzerland select Grippen

mazex · #1 11-30-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss

Bingo.
Plus, we dont have the cash.
It's the NG we're talking about, and I'll rather have two Grippen than one EF.

Furthermore it doesn't offer serious attack capabilities, which is pretty important, should our lefties one fine day decide to join the NATO.

Agreed - but I'm a bit biased

Glad to hear you like the choice!

As a Swede this is naturally really good news as we need exports to keep up our rather unique role as one of the few countries in the world that make our own fighter aircraft. OK, the Gripen is maybe not the best fighter plane in the world - but from a bang for the bucks perspective it's a rather good choice... And it sure is good looking

Madfish · #2 11-30-2011, 06:43 PM

It's the electronics (or lack of) that makes the difference IMO. Not just the thrust. I can't really see the point of buying the Grippen to be honest. Shouldn't be much of an improvement over the current fleet. If anything I too must say the Rafale would've been an interesting pick - aside from the EF.

mazex · #3 11-30-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Madfish

It's the electronics (or lack of) that makes the difference IMO. Not just the thrust. I can't really see the point of buying the Grippen to be honest. Shouldn't be much of an improvement over the current fleet. If anything I too must say the Rafale would've been an interesting pick - aside from the EF.

Ehh - you mean that upgrading from F-5:s to JAS-39 should not be much of an improvement? C'mon - that's rather harsh

TomcatViP · #4 11-30-2011, 08:26 PM

Lol nooooo

I mean range, Radar antenna size, weapon loads etc...

It's a really good plane well suited for the job here.

I am sure tonight LkdM start to think of a better future (the gap is closed hence the furious comments on prices).

DA shld hve run with a serious M2K-NG.

But if I was from SW I wld hve run directly with a F20 instead of such a wild ride with a STOL derivé

Sometime mixing both expectation is not what get satisfaction. Well it's late, time to say it to the gf

major_setback · #5 12-01-2011, 12:15 AM

I'm very happy about this. It's another in a long line of fine aircraft from Sweden.

I agree with the Swiss reasoning that there is no reason to pay for a few extravagantly expensive fighters. Better with more (technologically advanced and fully capable) cheaper ones.

major_setback · #6 12-01-2011, 12:27 AM

I think it's a wonderful looking plane. Originally the tail was swept back I think (on the prototype). It was straightened for purposes of stability. I actually prefer the final look of it.

Big beautiful photos of Gripen/Griffin

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...1253gripen.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...pen_cz2_hr.jpg

JG53Frankyboy · #7 12-01-2011, 09:20 AM

if i understood correct the Gripen is not ment to replace the Hornets?!
Waste of money.....wondering how it got through the swiss direct democratic.

EDIT:
after reading some newspapers about this, i would say this deal is not done already, only the choice of the government

TomcatViP · #8 11-30-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mazex

Agreed - but I'm a bit biased

Glad to hear you like the choice!

As a Swede ...OK, the Gripen is maybe not the best fighter plane in the world -

Just for that I wld buy one for my backyard (read the kidney/Porsche story - ok I need more than a kidney here)

Grip NG was by far the best choice for a F5 replacement for Switzerland.

[OT_Mode=ON/] Talking abt cars I hope that SAAB wld celebrate this with a new descent model. Time to wake up the guys in GotherBorg!