109 advice needed (climb)

[Sven]

I think the Hurricane Rotol is the best plane allies have excluding the Spit II.

A good Hurricane pilot is well able to defeat a 109 in manoeuvres the 109 should excel atm.

[Whiski]

Very interesting post. I would be hard pressed to determine a winner of a 109 vs hurri (both pilots experten) on level playing field.

Tactics, counter tactics, gunnery, so many variables to consider. Barring the fm of the planes in CLoD, the 109 did have superior flight characteristics, but they could be out flown by an experienced pilot. Tactics is the deciding factor here, who uses the right tactic at that precise moment to get the advantage. I think of it like a chess game, all the moves during the game try to lead your opponent into a position for you to achieve victory, whether or not your opponent takes your bait is another story, or will he use your moves against you. Being able to plan ahead (as in chess) is a big factor.

Whiskey

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Whiski

Tactics, counter tactics, gunnery, so many variables to consider. Barring the fm of the planes in CLoD, the 109 did have superior flight characteristics, but they could be out flown by an experienced pilot. Tactics is the deciding factor here, who uses the right tactic at that precise moment to get the advantage. I think of it like a chess game, all the moves during the game try to lead your opponent into a position for you to achieve victory, whether or not your opponent takes your bait is another story, or will he use your moves against you. Being able to plan ahead (as in chess) is a big factor.

Whiskey, excellent post - I am using the chess game comparsion very often, too regarding dogfight. (1 on 1)

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Sven

I think the Hurricane Rotol is the best plane allies have excluding the Spit II.

It is faster and climbs better than Spitfire Mk.Ia, but on the other hand, it's much less maneuvrable. Speed makes Hurri more dangerous for 109s, I agree, but in my personal opinion, Rotol Hurricane and Mk.Ia Spitfire are equally good and capable, choice depends on preference of the pilot. (Some need the maneuvrability, some need the speed and stability). I suppose the FMs will be altered as having a Hurricane that outperforms Spitfire is bizarre 109 needs attention, too.

Originally Posted by Sven

A good Hurricane pilot is well able to defeat a 109 in manoeuvres the 109 should excel atm.

PILOT is not able to defeat a PLANE. If you talk about good pilot in a Hurricane, then he's defeating the (perhaps not as good) pilot in a Messerschmitt. Messerschmit as such (plane) is much better fighter than Hurricane (plane). Pilot can obviously close the gap in performance.

If you can, please do specify which maneuvers do you mean.