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Old 11-22-2011, 08:44 PM
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:24 PM
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well, to be fair the eurifighter typhon is probably th eonly jet fighter i find good looking.

regarding its effectivness, really dont know, really dont care.
Yes I agree it looks good

I care about its effectiveness, my taxes paid for it.



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stern - good posts.
Lol

Poor effort at the best from him.

Conclusions

What conclusions can we draw about the Typhoon? The notion that the aircraft is “almost as good as an F-22” is not supportable, indeed upgrading the F-15 with engines and a radar/IRS&T/AAM package of the same generation as that of the Typhoon would equalise almost all advantages held by the Typhoon over older F-15C/E variants. By the same token, no upgrades performed on the F/A-18A/C would equalise the performance advantages of the Typhoon over these aircraft.

The strength of the Typhoon is its very modern and comprehensive avionic package, especially that in the RAF variant, and its excellent agility when operated around its optimum combat radius of about 300 NMI (a figure to be found in older Eurofighter literature, which has since disappeared with the export drive to compete against the bigger F-15 and F-22).

The Typhoon's weaknesses are its F/A-18C class weight and thrust and the implications of this in combat at extended operational radii, and the longer term sensitivity of its BVR weapons advantage to equivalent technological developments in opposing fighters.

In terms of where to position the Typhoon in the current menagerie of fighter aircraft, it can be best described as an F/A-18C sized fighter with BVR systems and agility performance better than older F-15 models, similar to growth F-15 models with same generation systems and engines, but inferior to the F-15 in useful operating radius. The Typhoon is not a stealth aircraft, despite various assertions to this effect, nor is it a genuine supercruiser like the F-22. Its design incorporates none of the features seen in very low observable types, nor does the EJ200 incorporate the unique design features of the F119 and F120 powerplants.

The Typhoon is certainly not a lemon, although the wisdom of mass producing a high performance conventional fighter of its ilk in a period where stealth is about to hit mass production in the F-22 and JSF programs could be seriously questioned. It represents what is likely to be the last major evolutionary step in the teen series design philosophy.



Have a read here see what you think, a non USA UK opinion

http://www.ausairpower.net/Analysis-Typhoon.html

IMHO its a waste of taxpayers money, out dated and hugely over budget.

Still its useful for this sort of stuff.


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Old 11-22-2011, 09:44 PM
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Lol

Poor effort at the best from him.

Have a read here see what you think, a non USA UK opinion

http://www.ausairpower.net/Analysis-Typhoon.html
I'm sorry, but that article has absolutely no value whatsoever. It doesn't make sense to compare the F-22 to the Eurofighter, they come from two drastically different mindsets and specifications.

But let's think about it in a term of "air dominance fighter": would you have a jet like the Eurofighter, produced in Europe, giving work to hundreds of thousands of people here, being exported and offering a more than valid match to any modern fighter jet out there, OR would you have a costly US fighter, which has a higher cost per unit, comes with crazy loan schemes and costly maintenance, favouring the American economy and industry?

I would understand an Australian pondering which one they would rather buy, but a member of the Eurofighter consortium should be well proud of what we achieved here (especially if you consider that its conceptual father, the EAP, was an all English project).

Besides you need to consider operational costs and tactical use of the plane, how many Su35 are you expecting to find out there? Truth is that we produce the best quality for value aeroplane, and breaking into the market with such a product, taking customers away from the US, is a big result.
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Lol

Poor effort at the best from him.
what, i agree with him, oddly enough.

i do however, disagree with
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