Gunsight 109 propositions

[JG53_Valantine]

Have to say I agree: trackIR isn't really a benefit when aiming with the 109 at present - very clunky and slow; not something you want in the middle of a dogfight.
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[trumps]

I do not like the whole time lag issue with the zooming to gunsight view, instead I usually Recenter the gun sight with the F12 key, then for zooming in I just switch between the wide FOV, and the narrow FOV, seems to be the best compromise as things are currently for me.

Craig

[flyingblind]

I agree with you Stormcrow. The best implementation would be the crosshairs floating outside the confines of the screen which is what the pilot would have seen. Unfortunately this effect can only be observed by a real pilot looking through a real sight because of his binocular vision. The utube vids of revi type sights show the crosshairs only visible when they coincide with the sight glass as per game as they are seen through the single lense of the camera. Such treatment of the sights as you suggest would look particularly realistic if not awsome when used with a 3D vision setup.

[Robo.]

I am a TrackIR user and I fly the 109 quite a lot. I don't feel penalised in any way and I take it as a game limitation regarding the real life binocular vision vs. 2d monitor. I can't think of any better way of portraying the Bf 109 gunsight but I believe that with some fiddling with the TrackIR curves, one can achieve prety much perfect control of the head movement and if you know where your aiming position is, you see the ReVi just where it's supposed to be.

I don't think that coming back to the Il-2 ninja Ctrl+F1 pilot or displaying the crosshair around the ReVi glass would be of any benefit to so called reality in the sim. I understand what you mean though, it took me a while to get use to it.

For all 109 pilots with TrackIR - I lean my head down and to the left a bit, then hit my center TIR button, which brings my aim straight in front of the gunsight and I keeps it there even during fierce dogfight. Compared to the 6DoF mod in Il-2, I obviously had to alter my profile (was too fast and agressive around the centre), but this certainly did the trick for me and it might for someone else, too.

Just my 0.02

[ZaltysZ]

I also use TrackIR and never switch views as there is no need for that because 6DOF works fine for me. It is interesting why others have such problems.

[howcome]

Yep, TrackIR works great for the 109 gunsight. More realistic having to lean slightly to get a good sight picture. How did I ever sim without TrackIR?

If you think thoroughly this thing through you will come to two principal conclusions:

1. Being forced to leaning sideways (and centering TrackIR when leaning left is absolutely identical in what TrackIR mechanics concerns) is penalizing as unlike with TrackIR center being ON gunsight you will be offset from the trackIR curve center whether you lean to the right or with centering TrackIR on a left side position). This will result in following effect: your head position with respect to TrackIR curve center being displaced your most tiny movements during aiming will result im much bigger virtual head movements adding up to the already existing head shake. You would have to edit your trackIr curves considerabley making it almost insensitive for small to medium headmovements. I consider this a considerable drawback. And I tried it both ways.

2. It is not realistic as NO German pilot ever leaned sideways. They just leaned forward and fullstop.

You finally may come also to the conclusion that this thing can be improved with very little effort by the developer. Why should we not ask them? It is not asking for something less realistic but in fact for something more realistic and which will be less awkward unlike it is now.