Altimeter full real.

[Bonkin]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

I have made extensive tests on this, and yes, I cannot get radar to report anything at all. I've tried adding AI Actor airports, AA, power on, everything I can think of, including adding radio towers/trucks, etc. If there are no other friendlies in the air, I cannot receive a report. I can get radio messages telling me to join the pattern if I put airport towers up, so its not that there are no messages, just cannot figure out how to make radar ones work.

On the other hand, even removing all radar objects (except the map default ones), I can receive reports when 2 flights of aircraft get within visual range of each other. Even testing from the German side, where there are no map default radars, I can get contact reports as long as German aircraft (AI or Player) get within range of enemy a/c.

I've tried at least 20 times, adding up to 50 radar stations of all types onto the map, and consistently these are the results I get. However, I could still be doing something wrong, (maybe a script or trigger set?), so it might be possible in game to get radar, but neither I nor anyone else I've asked can figure out the method.

Originally Posted by IvanK

You can determine the exact elevation in metres using FMB. Place an object on the ground then read the Z co ordinate in the bottom left corner. Using this you can determine each airfields elevation. If you park your aircraft on the ground and set your altimeter to the exact known altitude you then automatically have the correct atmospheric pressure (QNH) for the map.

Here are all the UK airfield elevations obtained from QMB and verified in game. I will compile the whole lot into a single PDF once all the data is in. Apologies to the French if the spelling is a bit off

Guys (Cheesehawk and IvanK), thanks for the explanation and effort that you've put into this.

When the dynamic weather is fully integrated I'm looking forward to seeing where it takes us. I like to fly full real and am hoping that we'll have to take account of pressure settings for navigation and finding the enemy. I also imagine that knowing the height of an aerodrome above sea level might be useful for high level bombing - but currently that's a whole part of the game I've yet to look into.

[Osprey]

No Gravesend in the list?

Still, I understand it's too risky to bomb, what with No.501 County of Gloucester being stationed there

[IvanK]

Here you go in attached zip a PDF Gravesend included. Revised Formating as well.

It would also seem that the QNH varies with the time of day. Thats what I am seeing on the ATAG server anyway.

[VBF-12_Gosling]

Chaps

I have gone a bit further with my Enroute Supplement. 616Sqn now has a Flight Planning Office:
616Sqn Flight Planning Office

There is a fair amount of useful information in the website as well.

Its still not quiet fininshed and there are a few more runways to enter etc...

The lower charts are clickable for printing too.

Gosling
Lt RNVR
616Sqn

[mcler002]

I really need to get into the details of all this stuff (considering ive just purchased xplane 10 and looking forward to microsoft flight) get myself a few aviation books, better controls etc.

Anyway at the moment im trying to get the hang of bombing (in the Blenheim) and i now assume that the figures above (Height differences) also play a crucial role in bombing?

Atm i have created a simple practice bomb route via multiplayer (see attached mission) with a blenheim & he111 @ 10000ft (roughly) and another blenheim @ 19000ft (roughly). So far using the calculations given to me from BlackDog (Thread title - Work out TAS from meters? For bombing) i still appear to be bombing short from the target. So my question is?

a) Should i create a mission where i take off from an airbase? (where i can set the correct altitude)

b) Since my target is Le Touquet airfield, would i need to add/ subtract the difference in altitude? would this make a big difference?

Other than that. I hope in the future that the full mission builder could have both FT/KM and MPH/KPH for the different armies rather than just the 'German' unit measurements

Ross

[mcler002]

Ross

[mcler002]

Did a small test and i managed to hit more or less on target

Will explain later on in the next few days

Cheers

Ross

[jimbop]

Yes, please share. I think many of us are waiting for the patch and hoping it brings bombing goodness! At the moment it is harder than it should be.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by mcler002

I really need to get into the details of all this stuff (considering ive just purchased xplane 10 and looking forward to microsoft flight) get myself a few aviation books, better controls etc.

Anyway at the moment im trying to get the hang of bombing (in the Blenheim) and i now assume that the figures above (Height differences) also play a crucial role in bombing?

Atm i have created a simple practice bomb route via multiplayer (see attached mission) with a blenheim & he111 @ 10000ft (roughly) and another blenheim @ 19000ft (roughly). So far using the calculations given to me from BlackDog (Thread title - Work out TAS from meters? For bombing) i still appear to be bombing short from the target. So my question is?

a) Should i create a mission where i take off from an airbase? (where i can set the correct altitude)

b) Since my target is Le Touquet airfield, would i need to add/ subtract the difference in altitude? would this make a big difference?

Other than that. I hope in the future that the full mission builder could have both FT/KM and MPH/KPH for the different armies rather than just the 'German' unit measurements

Ross

I think going above 5000ft with the Blenheim is going to stretch it a bit. It has no autopilot and the higher you are, the harder it is to align the target because the cockpit framing obstructs the view out ahead: by the time you can see the target, the higher you are the less time you have to align it.

It could be possible to bomb from 10000ft or so but you would need other people with you to bomb as a group and saturate the area, as it's not that easy to hit right on the bullseye any more.

As for the altimeter differences, for optimal results yes, they should be taken into account.

What you need to bomb accurately is:

1) Your GS (speed relative to ground): This is indicated (IAS) converted to true (TAS) airspeed at your current altitude and then also corrected for wind. For example, if your TAS is 250mph but you have a 20 mph headwind, you GS is 230mph.

2) Your altitude above the target: This means you need to know your altitude above sea level and the target's altitude above sea level.


So, if i'm flying at 10000ft and bombing a target that is on a hill 1500ft high, i will calculate and use a TAS value for 10000ft (no idea what we can do about wind yet to get GS in the non-automatic sights), but the altitude i will input on the bombsight will be my altitude - target's elevation = 10000 - 1500 = 8500ft.

[bravoalpha]

If the weather goes dynamic you can still use the "basic tools" for bombing: a map, and the stopwatch. From your direction and the IAS, and from your path you can calculate the wind, the GS, and correct your path.
Height is not so easy to figure out if the pressure is changing, but ground objects, roads or areas has a length and with on the map and in the sight. The scale of them gives the AGL.
Of course there could be different wind layers with wind effect on the falling bombs so nothing could guarantee the perfect hit!