If your not a fan why are you here ?

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Strangely enough I see most of the so called 'whiners' online most nights, flying CoD.
Strangely enough I DON'T see most of the so called 'fanboi's' flying CoD.

From that I can only think that the so called 'whiners' are fans of the game, and want it to succeed, but are adult enough to realise there are huge problems with the game, but still fly it anyway. Even Luthier is embarrassed about it enough to apologise.
The 'fanboi's' on the other hand just come here to argue, and are nowhere to be seen online.
And no, sitting in your bedroom at your moms house waiting for her to call you down to dinner whilst defending CoD at all costs does not make you a big man on the internet, even if you do call yourself ace...
And listen up kids, the plural of whine is 'whiner', NOT 'whinner' which makes no sense at all in the English language. Ask your teacher about it tomorrow.

Well said mate.
As Luthier said too:

"If we didn't listen to criticism, Il-2 would never in a million years get to where it did back in 2001.

So please keep it coming. "

This is the underlying point. Fan-bois who praise the game will not improve it. Fans who post constructive posts about areas in need of improvement will. And for the record, when a topic has been created arguing that terrain could be improved, I and others have always supported our posts in such topics with research and personal, first-hand observations.

And, to prove that I am a fan (because apparently you have to round here ) I gave Oleg and Luthier pages and pages and pages of research for the RAF flight-kit represented in-game (even if they didn't do as good a job as they could have done, given my research...) I seeked to improve the game in the most constructive, relevent way possible for myself.
Has robtek done this? Who thinks people like me are seeking to ruin the game?

No, but I don't care if he has! I know he loves the game and that's awesome! Really, I'm happy for him. I want this game to succeed. But can't he, and others, understand that some of us have different approaches to wanting this game to succeed?

S!