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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-16-2011, 11:43 AM
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Sorry mate, but very poor comment born out ignorance. As you now see, it is totally correct that trim tabs move counter intuitively. I know that because I have real world flying experience. You didn't know that, which is fine. But what is not fine is how you jumped to an accusative conclusion based on total ignorance. What you should have said is either nothing at all or perhaps asked someone else more knowledgeable on this forum to assist/explain etc.

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I agree with you. However I must add that my comment had some content to it even though it didn't apply this time.

Btw, "real world flying experience" does nothing to me. What is that? I had some "real world flying experience" myself. You use it to give more weight to your argument. It didn't work nor will it ever do.
Knowledge about trim tabs can be acquired theoretically.
I'm curious to why some always like to pull this card in some discussions.
You seem like a knowledgeable guy. Tell me, why did you use this argument in your post?
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Old 10-16-2011, 12:32 PM
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I think this thread has invented a new theory of relativity, whereby;

E=MI2

Insert word beginning with 'I' according to your preference. I'd go for 'intolerance', personally.

Edit: terribly sorry for the typo, I couldn't get the 'squared' symbol in the correct place.
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:04 PM
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I think this thread has invented a new theory of relativity, whereby;

E=MI2

Insert word beginning with 'I' according to your preference. I'd go for 'intolerance', personally.

Edit: terribly sorry for the typo, I couldn't get the 'squared' symbol in the correct place.
yes, there is intollerance at any question, I don't know why we are at this stage, probably a patch-stress ?
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Better not ask about the Spit's mixture control! LOL
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Old 10-16-2011, 03:45 PM
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Better not ask about the Spit's mixture control! LOL
Wouldn't surprise me if they reversed it. Another example of the programmers lack of quality.
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Wouldn't surprise me if they reversed it. Another example of the programmers lack of quality.
I KNEW you'd jump on that, V! LOL

I just fly the Spits and Hurries, so I can't comment on the other aircraft. CoD has the mixture control reversed in the Spits (the Hurricane's mixture control is modelled correctly in CoD). No biggie once you know it, but it cost me a few blown Merlins at the beginning until I realised it. Should be an easy fix, but I imagine it's way down on the priority list. The devs DID fix the range settings on the gunsight, though, so you never know!
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:12 PM
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Considering this is reported as being the most realistic and comprehensive WWII flight sim game ever, getting the mixture controls mixed up on such a well known and iconic aircraft such as the Spit, which has a wealth of information, and all freely available to the devs is a huge, huge oversight..
But then again.. lol!
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I agree with you. However I must add that my comment had some content to it even though it didn't apply this time.

Btw, "real world flying experience" does nothing to me. What is that? I had some "real world flying experience" myself. You use it to give more weight to your argument. It didn't work nor will it ever do.
Knowledge about trim tabs can be acquired theoretically.
I'm curious to why some always like to pull this card in some discussions.
You seem like a knowledgeable guy. Tell me, why did you use this argument in your post?
Hi V, maybe you didn't intend your statement to be quite so inflammatory, but it was. Maybe it's a language thing though for which I can't criticise. I certainly can't speak Swedish . BUT in English, what you said just wasn't a good thing to say. IMHO it warrants an 'oops' at least from you .

You're totally right that one doesn't need any real world flying experience to know about trim tabs. In my case though, I doubt I would have decided to read up about trim tabs unless I was undergoing pilot training. Not exactly something anyone would likely read about unless the really needed to know about it. A real world pilot needs to know about it, which is why I mentioned my real world flying experience. An explanation for why I know about it. In fact, it's bloody important to know. I have read several accounts of elevators having jammed and pilots regaining some pitch control with the trim tab alone. Essential to know that they work in reverse in such scenarios. Oh, to answer your question, 'real world experience' for me is a PPL with about 90 hours.

Anyway, olive branch?

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Old 10-16-2011, 08:02 PM
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Hi V, maybe you didn't intend your statement to be quite so inflammatory, but it was. Maybe it's a language thing though for which I can't criticise. I certainly can't speak Swedish . BUT in English, what you said just wasn't a good thing to say. IMHO it warrants an 'oops' at least from you .

You're totally right that one doesn't need any real world flying experience to know about trim tabs. In my case though, I doubt I would have decided to read up about trim tabs unless I was undergoing pilot training. Not exactly something anyone would likely read about unless the really needed to know about it. A real world pilot needs to know about it, which is why I mentioned my real world flying experience. An explanation for why I know about it. In fact, it's bloody important to know. I have read several accounts of elevators having jammed and pilots regaining some pitch control with the trim tab alone. Essential to know that they work in reverse in such scenarios. Oh, to answer your question, 'real world experience' for me is a PPL with about 90 hours.

Anyway, olive branch?

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PPL, huh!?! My experience is one hour in a Cherokee where I got to "wheel" the plane for a short five minutes. It was a gift.

I'm too proud to give an "oops" and this is Internet so I don't have to.
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Old 10-16-2011, 10:13 PM
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If you are too proud to give a "oops" then there is nothing to be proud about!
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