Tempest max speed

[Brain32]

Seriously tho guys, the Tempest isnt what I would call an 'easy flier' when compared to, for example, the Me109F4, The La5 or the Spifire IX.

Well having twice their weight I'm not terribly suprised however in-game it most certainly isn't far from them and still handles better than "only" 1 - 1,5ton lighter planes, no wonder the nose wobbles when the plane if flying like a feather...although it's 5 tons heavy

I found playing online servers that most popular planes Fw 190 D-9 is much more faster at full throttle altitude then it should.

You are correct D9 '44 is some 20-25kmh too fast at best alt.
But if you want to talk about popular and too fast, P51D is another example where at it's best alt also reaches 728kmh instead of 705kmh, so it's kinda "tit for tat" situation in that regards...
IRL Tempest outperformed FW190A because it was faster, climbed better, dived better and zoomed better, just like in-game although IRL Tempest didn't have any turn advantage over FW190A, in-game it can turn with late high power 109's down to like 240kmh, no problem while it can declass any FW without problems...
I wonder why Closterman said to his squaddies not to turn with 109's below 300MPH(482,8kmh), he and the others must have been really crappy pilots comparing to il2 aces...
I wonder what would happen if FW's could do that to Spitfires or Lavochkins ROFL - poor Oleg

[mondo]

Originally Posted by Brain32

I wonder why Closterman said to his squaddies not to turn with 109's below 300MPH(482,8kmh), he and the others must have been really crappy pilots comparing to il2 aces...

Because in real life you take all precautions because you only get one life?

[HR_Zunzun]

Originally Posted by Brain32

Well having twice their weight I'm not terribly suprised however in-game it most certainly isn't far from them and still handles better than "only" 1 - 1,5ton lighter planes, no wonder the nose wobbles when the plane if flying like a feather...although it's 5 tons heavy

I wonder why Closterman said to his squaddies not to turn with 109's below 300MPH(482,8kmh), he and the others must have been really crappy pilots comparing to il2 aces...
I wonder what would happen if FW's could do that to Spitfires or Lavochkins ROFL - poor Oleg

I wonder why Evan Mackie wrote that:

The Tempest could not compete with the Hun in a climb, but could outdive them with ease and compare favourably in the turn. One particular combat with a long-nosed FW 190, took place at 3,000 feet on a clear day, uninterrupted by either flak or other aircraft. Using + 11 boost and 3,750 rpm, the Tempest would almost get into a position to fire after about 3 complete turns, when the Hun would throttle back completely and disobey the golden rule of not changing bank, by stall turning the opposite way, thus almost meeting the Tempest head-on or at least at a big angle. Thus the Hun made a very elusive and formidable target, for executing this manoeuvre for the fourth time, he managed to take a big deflection shot at the Tempest as it went steaming past.


Every pilots has own experience. None of the quotes I have red about the Tempest//109-190 relative turn performance said it couldnt turn with either of them (not saying the opposite though). My experience in the game mimic those quotes.

otoh I will agree you in respect that I would give away some turn performance (correct or not) for a proper 11lbs with full all aroun visibility tempest.

[Brain32]

Highly interesting story, but first he obviously ran 11lbs Tempest, but even then I find one thing pretty interesting, if you just outturned an enemy AC, how can that same allegedly outturned AC just bank the opposite way and meet you head-on?
Su-35 maybe but a FW190?

Anyway...it is what it is, I just find it funny when people say Tempest is hard to manouver lol

[HR_Zunzun]

Originally Posted by Brain32

Highly interesting story, but first he obviously ran 11lbs Tempest, but even then I find one thing pretty interesting, if you just outturned an enemy AC, how can that same allegedly outturned AC just bank the opposite way and meet you head-on?
Su-35 maybe but a FW190?

Anyway...it is what it is, I just find it funny when people say Tempest is hard to manouver lol

If you try to manouver at low speed yes but above 400kph is a dream. Morever, I usually got my kills by slashing attacks (turning is of not use here). Having more or less turn performance wouldnt change much (save the deffensive but, once again, I rather run than turn).