Who has the best IL-2 Online Server?

[Ccrashh]

Raven sorry, you don't make the rules here. You started this bailey work (in an open forum.)

I will not take this to PMs. I have nothing to hide. The only way people will get the facts is to see the debate in the open.

I'll be damned if I'm leaving you with the last word on this subject.

Your entire post was visceral in it's animosity towards Spits.

Originally Posted by RaVe

"I have been biting my tongue as to how many recommended a really bad server,"

"Why so many recommend and fly in S v109 is beyond my comprehension ."

"In comparison Sv109 is not even in the same league."

"Its simply sub par."

"Sending out the wrong word of mouth recommendation is a dis service to who you are recommending something to."

"I suppose its a mater of standards, some like velvet Elvis posters too. To each their own."

"Its wile nilly and game play shows the end result of that kind of mismanagement."

"Just because lots fly in a server doesn't mean its a good server.
Don't follow the heard."

"Raise your standards and treat yourself to a Quality server."

That's not just an opinion.
That's mean, inconsiderate and a blatant effort to draw population to servers that you prefer at the expense of others.

You're also insulting the people who choose to fly on or recommend Spits by accusing them of having questionable taste.

As for my post..

I stated the truth.
Your "opinion" was based on incorrect "facts."
And I most assuredly know what's going on with my own server, a lot more than you do..
For you to suggest that you are more informed than I about Warbirds is arrogance that goes beyond comprehension.

In your last post you have so many personal insults directed at me that I lost count.

I'll stick with the big points.

Your opinion of me is irrelevant.

I am not in this for a profit. If you knew as much about Warbirds or me as you claim you would know that.

I don't see you as the "competition".

I'm not competing with anyone except myself.

I never mentioned your server, nor your intentions regarding that server except to wish you luck..

Loose the Ego..

Originally Posted by RaVe

The fact that your server does not have my support is telling.
Take my criticisms as constructive and improve it. What you have there is still not working.

I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you this but your influence on this community is the same as mine.

We have none...

Neither you nor I move the needle on folk's "Give-A-$&%T-O-meter".

Your post cast an unfair disparaging slant on a lot of folk's hardwork and was incorrect.

We do not support Mods. Your post said we do. I submit the following from our forums.

Note the date.

http://www.warbirdsofprey.org/module...ewtopic&t=1762

We turn CRT=2 off and on at irregular times to do the following.
A. To see who is using mods and who is not (ie track their popularity.)
B. To keep folks who attempt at making modifications from knowing what setting we have on any particular day. This stops people from using us as a test bed to see if the latest attempt at a modification will get past different server settings.

If you knew as much about running a server as you think you do, you would already have figured that out. I'm not required to tell you what our settings are.

Originally Posted by RaVe

I have posted in the feedback in the past at your site and granted it was with you predecessor. I got no response.
but thats not your fault so I cant hold that against you.

geee.. thanks for not "holding" that against me...I'm so relieved....

You do however make my point for me. You admit you never gave us a chance to respond to any of your opinions, because you never gave them.
Yet here you are voicing your "opinion" without so much as a hint to us that you had any concerns.

Originally Posted by RaVe

After donating lots of $$ over the years to your predecessor and experiencing poor on line game play,I am well within my rights to complain.

Then you should have complained back then to him when he was running the joint. To save all of your "years" of frustration and then dump them on Warbirds now is unfair. Especially when you never took the time to try to communicate with us first.

The new server has been in operation for less than a month. Thanks for giving us a chance before bashing us here.

Originally Posted by RaVe

But You can't expect to take donations and not be criticized for sub par performance.
You have cost, I understand that. But to charge a
"subscription fee"
to give "subscribers" the right to down load stuff that they can get for free on other sites is over the top.

It is not over the top.. If you were in on what goes on in Warbirds (oh wait your not) you would know that whole issue is a leftover from the previous owner. We are currently in re-design of the webpage. There is no longer any "Members" area, "Members" forum or "Members" anything.

You point out something we already know and are working on.

I am going to take the following personally though.

Originally Posted by RaVe

You use Stat reset to insulate your time frame.

We reset stats every month. This month we did a couple of resets to do some maintenance to the stats program due to some noted issues brought to our attention.

Originally Posted by RaVe

Yes you do own the server. You can also control and manipulate the chat log and stats to conveniently hedge your position.

Short of coming out and saying, it its obvious what you have done to make your point...NICE

This is paranoia run amuck. Conspiracy theorists unite.
We did land on the moon, and there was only one shooter in Dallas.
To accuse me of altering the server just to win a debate with you is insulting at a minimum and more correctly OUTRAGEOUS!!

Originally Posted by RaVe

I understand that my personal opinion has hit you in the wallet.Your running a business for profit here.

My "wallet" has nothing to do with this. Your insinuation that I'm in this as a business for profit is insulting and wrong. Anyone who is a regular on Warbirds knows all to well that money is the last thing on my mind and has nothing to do with my motives for keeping Warbirds running.

I don't care if we all of a sudden (in your opinion) start "Doing Wonders" and S%&Ting cucumbers.
Please don't feel any need to help us with anything.
I would consider it a personal favor to me if you never set foot on Warbirds ever again.

Nobody insinuated you were a "liar" or full of S#^T. I never got personal. All I said was.

Originally Posted by Ccrashh

Never have I seen such a blanket misrepresentation of the facts.

Unlike your post.. I know what I'm talking about.
I own the server.

Ccrashh