DSC:A10 you really should try it... ;)

[Osprey]

I would just go on you tube MS, there's plenty on there. By all accounts it is excellent however as a sim it probably has far less to deal with than COD so it's unsurprising that so much effort could be spent on eye candy.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I would just go on you tube MS, there's plenty on there. By all accounts it is excellent however as a sim it probably has far less to deal with than COD so it's unsurprising that so much effort could be spent on eye candy.

Far less to deal with than CLoD? Okay, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, my friend.

CLoD, while involving and has a lot to deal with, is actually quite simple in terms of the technology behind the aircraft, systems etc. Yes, it might be easier to fly in the A10C since you do have systems helping you, but you have a VAST array of systems, functions and instruments you have to keep an eye on at all time, know how, when and when not to operate them, plus the fact that the AI takes absolutely no prisoners.

Comparing the two in terms of complexity is like comparing apples to bananas. Both are fruits, both grow on trees and both taste good, but that's where the comparison ends.

As Cheesehawk also mentions, it takes a damn lot more in order to accurately employ weapons in DCS:A10C than it does in CLoD, although CLoD isn't a slouch when it comes to that either.

[ARM505]

Regardless of whether you enjoy modern jets or not, the sim itself is technically excellent. Really, excellent. If you at all like the idea of flying the A10C, there is absolutely no reason not to get it.

[skouras]

since BMS4 is out i don't fly my favorite E4 and COD
Waiting for the patch i supposed
Also Red Orchestra2 is a very good game with much fun..

PS. IMHO DCS-A10C is an excellent sim
but after you master it, is a little boring
the reason is that has no dynamic campaign like Falcon..
but still has a lot of fun if you go live with some friends
good choise BTW...

[Anvilfolk]

I'm gonna try to push Fjord's point that the sim does NOT have a lot less to deal with.

I saw a ~11m tutorial on how when you use your targeting pod without laser pointer the system's targeting computer will get terrain height information from internal data, and point behind, say, the enemy truck you are trying to hit. Therefore, it not only gets incorrect height data, it also calculates the coordinates wrong. If you use that information to drop payload (in one of the myriad ways you can do it, CCRP or CCIP with either 9-mil, 5-mil or drop restrictions - pardon me, I forget the actual names), you might very well miss the target.

On the other hand, if you turn on laser sighting, not only can you sight for another plane, but the laser will accurately pin-point the distance from your plane, thus get the correct height, and you'll be able to hit.

That is one single, tiny example from among the thousands of them that you might have to deal with while flying the DCS A-10.

Here is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOZ18GNPI-c

I am not into jets at all! What drew me to DCS A-10 was the realism, and the fact is: I am always pressing buttons and always have something to do. In CoD, I might adjust throttle and radiators to keep temperature steady with a plane like the Blenheim. In DCS A-10, you will be customizing and configuring your countermeasures, setting up weapon profiles for release, designating targets in various ways and storing them, possibly altering your flight plan while online, etc etc etc. The manual is a crazy 670 pages, I would estimate 80% of which are filled with relevant and important information that you should know at some point. And it's not verbose.

I'm sold, to be honest, just for the realism

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co8LKJh6Xc0

[major_setback]

For A10 lovers:

[skouras]

thats a sniper pod not a TGP
BTW
Nice photo

[addman]

Just wanna chime in here. I also bought A-10C a while back and it's great. Also on my modest setup I run everything on "high" without any hick-ups. I'm not usually an online player but with this sim that's where the fun is at, flying scripted missions and "linking" up your plane with others with the onboard computers is cool as sh*t! The learning process is steep but rewarding like nothing out there, you think the engine management in CloD is a lot to deal with? don't try A-10! LOL! There are so many sub-systems you need to keep an eye on that it's almost mind-melting when the toughs get going. It's a different experience and I enjoy it. I also love taking my Stuka on a foggy morning raid on shipping in the channel, I love both games.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by addman

Just wanna chime in here. I also bought A-10C a while back and it's great. Also on my modest setup I run everything on "high" without any hick-ups. I'm not usually an online player but with this sim that's where the fun is at, flying scripted missions and "linking" up your plane with others with the onboard computers is cool as sh*t! The learning process is steep but rewarding like nothing out there, you think the engine management in CloD is a lot to deal with? don't try A-10! LOL! There are so many sub-systems you need to keep an eye on that it's almost mind-melting when the toughs get going. It's a different experience and I enjoy it. I also love taking my Stuka on a foggy morning raid on shipping in the channel, I love both games.

Completely different sims, but both give you a great sense of satisfaction when you do something 'right'!

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

Far less to deal with than CLoD? Okay, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, my friend.

CLoD, while involving and has a lot to deal with, is actually quite simple in terms of the technology behind the aircraft, systems etc. Yes, it might be easier to fly in the A10C since you do have systems helping you, but you have a VAST array of systems, functions and instruments you have to keep an eye on at all time, know how, when and when not to operate them, plus the fact that the AI takes absolutely no prisoners.

Comparing the two in terms of complexity is like comparing apples to bananas. Both are fruits, both grow on trees and both taste good, but that's where the comparison ends.

As Cheesehawk also mentions, it takes a damn lot more in order to accurately employ weapons in DCS:A10C than it does in CLoD, although CLoD isn't a slouch when it comes to that either.

No, I do. I'm talking about DM, bullet ballistics in an MO - you don't dogfight in an A-10 so DCS doesn't need to concern itself with these more intensive types of calculation. Whilst your systems in DCS may be telling you something they are not functioning programmatically like the real thing, they just behave like the real thing in order to give you the experience. This isn't going to be as intensive.

I'm not taking anything away from DCS here, it does look fantastic, but the real workload is on the user and not the hardware when it comes to the software itself. It's not that it's more efficient, it's just that it plainly does less.