Suddenly Spit IIa on all the servers?

looking at the picture it even seems that the spit outrolls the 109 ...

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

That video proves nothing.

Well maybe that some guys manage their energy better than others and that a lucky hit can stop any plane.

+1

Did you notice that he didn't allow his spitfire to go into -G cutout once during the who video? Either that great flying or the 109 pilot was't using manuvers to take advantages of his opponents weaknesses.


The 109 pilot did enter a number of spins during the fight, thats either running out of energy, bad flying or a last ditch effort! (I'm guilty of those three things myself so you could call me an expert )

Cheers!

[macro]

my 2 pennies worth:

Im not an "ace" at this by any means, but i usually fly the hurri rotol on atag server

I tried the spit 2 when they had it and it was like changing the difficulty to easy so i stopped flying it, almost felt like i was cheating (and felt sorry for the little 109's).

I also tried flying against it, but not flying the 109 alot, was pointless

I think if they can bring in the e7 and make it a match for the spit2 (dont know if this is accurate historically or not) then you could have different "eras" of the BoB, late and early with different scenarios, i,e bombing convoys, then airfeilds and later cities for example.

[TomcatViP]

That wld be the worst thing to do. Leveling those great FM to that of the relaxed ones that hve the Spits wld kill what CoD had tried to achieved : a fair simulation of a very special part of history

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

+1

Did you notice that he didn't allow his spitfire to go into -G cutout once during the who video? Either that great flying or the 109 pilot was't using manuvers to take advantages of his opponents weaknesses.


The 109 pilot did enter a number of spins during the fight, thats either running out of energy, bad flying or a last ditch effort! (I'm guilty of those three things myself so you could call me an expert )

Cheers!

agreed. The 109 was loosing control all the time and didnt use his rolling ability and negative G capability.

The Sopit on the other hand had plenty of chances to put tons of lead into the 109 but simply wasnt abel to steady his sights long enough.

I have met guys online that would have shot that 109 into 1000 pieces within the first minute of the clip

Winger

[David198502]

all i can say about this debate is.......we need historical correct flight models for all the planes.as close to reality as possible!thats all we need.
this game is called a flight SIM.
so there should not be made the attempt to even sides for gameplay in my opinion.

if we have realistic performing aircrafts,then i will begin to serious fly online.and then i will happily fight spitsII with my E4,even if my plane is still inferior.
but until this problem is solved, ill stay offline most of the time.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by macro

I think if they can bring in the e7 and make it a match for the spit2 (dont know if this is accurate historically or not) then you could have different "eras" of the BoB, late and early with different scenarios, i,e bombing convoys, then airfeilds and later cities for example.

An E-7 was nothing else as an E-4 able to carry a droptank.

Assuming that all CoD 109s are using the same DB601Aa engine, there should almost be no difference in performance between E-1,E-3and E-4 . The E-1 was some very few kg lighter..........
A 109 with differnet performance would be a Bf109E-4/N, but these planes ware rare!
To my knowlage only one fightergroup was equipted with it, and perhaps some additonal among the other groups for some special aces. but even that is doubtfull as it needed different fuel than the other 109s.


From the beginning, to have an E-3 in game was a strangr decission.......E-1 and E-4 ( with their -/B variants) should have made it IMO. But thats already a very dead horse.
same category as the ita
ian planes, the heardbreaker Spit and the german Minelayer.......

[AARPRazorbacks]

I put this video up to show that the IIa has no great advantage over the 109's like some would like to make some think.

But the 109 had/has the advantage over the I,Ia and hurri. That is why the Brits made the IIa to take away that advantage as in the sim.

I'm not going to flame anyone that thinks other wise. Whats the point of that?

If you fly MP and what to fly the IIa or not join a server that has the plane or not.

flyer01

[David198502]

well the spitII has every possible advantage.its faster,it turns better,it climbs better it even outdives the bf.

[Winger]

Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks

I put this video up to show that the IIa has no great advantage over the 109's like some would like to make some think.

But the 109 had/has the advantage over the I,Ia and hurri. That is why the Brits made the IIa to take away that advantage as in the sim.

I'm not going to flame anyone that thinks other wise. Whats the point of that?

If you fly MP and what to fly the IIa or not join a server that has the plane or not.

flyer01

You obviously have no clue what youre talking about - sorry.
Winger