Reno air crash ( P51 )

[diveplane]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Yeah but this is where the speculation circus begins.....we could argue and debate in complete circles over any incident like this, only the professionals will give any kind of reasoned explanation.

My only real stance in this topic is that age is not relevant, a young guy could die suddenly, a young guy will make mistakes that his youthfull reactions can't compensate for........it's just irrelevant.

well imo age is relevant , high g fighter and a 74 year old man behind the controls .

1= heart attack
2= g load


younger man can tolerate it more over a pensioner in the sky, past his best flying days, should have retired to flying cessnas straight and level.

even better retired grounded.

relevent to me for safer displays and skies.
.....

quicker the FAA or authorites step in imply new restrictions the better.

[ElAurens]

One of my squad mates was 100 yards from the crash.

He and his companions are OK, at least physically.

Please stop this uninformed speculation and childish debate.

It serves no purpose other than to make cheap the lives that were lost and the lives that were scarred because of this tragedy.

Take some time to be thankful for your loved ones and the time you have with them.

*EDIT*

There is another photo that shows the left elevator trim tab missing. So let's not cherry pick photos, OK?

[winny]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

One of my squad mates was 100 yards from the crash.

He and his companions are OK, at least physically.

Please stop this uninformed speculation and childish debate.

It serves no purpose other than to make cheap the lives that were lost and the lives that were scarred because of this tragedy.

Take some time to be thankful for your loved ones and the time you have with them.

*EDIT*

There is another photo that shows the left elevator trim tab missing. So let's not cherry pic photos, OK?

If that comment's aimed at me then I made no remark other than it was strange. I was posting the pic so people could see for themselves. It wasn't meant as a conspiracy/speculation thing.

[ElAurens]

No problem Winny.

I'm just a bit agitated over the wild speculation over this. When someone you know comes that close it puts the whole thing in a much different light.

[winny]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

No problem Winny.

I'm just a bit agitated over the wild speculation over this. When someone you know comes that close it puts the whole thing in a much different light.

Cool, the last thing this thread needs is arguments. It would seem disrespectful.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by winny

Cool, the last thing this thread needs is arguments. It would seem disrespectful.

Agreed.

Take care sir.

[ElAurens]

Here is the photo I referenced.

Note the missing left elevator trim tab.

Not the first time this has happened to a P 51.

[diveplane]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

One of my squad mates was 100 yards from the crash.

He and his companions are OK, at least physically.

Please stop this uninformed speculation and childish debate.

It serves no purpose other than to make cheap the lives that were lost and the lives that were scarred because of this tragedy.

Take some time to be thankful for your loved ones and the time you have with them.

*EDIT*

There is another photo that shows the left elevator trim tab missing. So let's not cherry pick photos, OK?

no child debates here, entitled to our opinions just like you.

we are all sorry it happened , wont bring people back, but again new FAA display regulations imo need to take effect asap.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by diveplane

well imo age is relevant , high g fighter and a 74 year old man behind the controls .

1= heart attack
2= g load


younger man can tolerate it more over a pensioner in the sky, past his best flying days, should have retired to flying cessnas straight and level.

even better retired grounded.

relevent to me for safer displays and skies.
.....

quicker the FAA or authorites step in imply new restrictions the better.

1. there have been countless instances of 20 year old professional sports players just dropping dead.

2. Red 4 of the red arrows, highly trained young man, speculated to have suffered g loc.

3. do you know how much g was being pulled at the time of the incident?

4. if the authorities apply age restrictions then prepare to see even more fatalities due to youthfull ego and overenthusiasm causing accidents, anytime authorities are called to action they take the lazyest route and make draconian bans, way to go...spoil the fun for future generations.

5. if there was so much negative g stopping the apparent gear deployment, then why are there no flailing arms of a dead or unconcious pilot seen pressed against the canopy?