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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-09-2011, 11:40 AM
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I like the new dots. For the first time i actually had fun flying online on the English channel map without flying for an hour without spotting anything. I go online to fight and have fun. I'll do the sightseeing offline.
For me it's a keeper. There is no way that i am going to lower the resolution just to be able to spot enemy planes. This game is way to beautiful for that.
I'm all in for realism but not if it kills the fun.
I am with you. Dots have to be adjusted a bit more to make up for distance, 4km and 8km dots could have different shading. You can't make dots smaller then the resolution a PC is able to handle.

But in general aircraft could be a bit more visible anyways. It simply takes the fun out of it if everybody flies at the deck because nobody is able to spot an aircraft from above against the ground. It's incredible hard to follow a Spitfire even in close quarter dogfights because it just vansihes against the ground, no reflections compensating for that.
Realistic or not, if the end result is a completly porked gameplay just because a PC can't handle real life visibility specs, then realism is more a curse then a blessing.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:42 AM
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I am with you. Dots have to be adjusted a bit more to make up for distance, 4km and 8km dots could have different shading. You can't make dots smaller then the resolution a PC is able to handle.

But in general aircraft could be a bit more visible anyways. It simply takes the fun out of it if everybody flies at the deck because nobody is able to spot an aircraft from above against the ground. It's incredible hard to follow a Spitfire even in close quarter dogfights because it just vansihes against the ground, no reflections compensating for that.
Realistic or not, if the end result is a completly porked gameplay just because a PC can't handle real life visibility specs, then realism is more a curse then a blessing.
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there does need to be a balance..Hopefully they are working on this and that's not the finished product
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:28 PM
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This dots are terrible, they need to go. Plus the "Ghost Dots" this is still there too...
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:50 PM
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Well it would seem that the opinion on this matter is split into two camps: Those who favour realism, and those who favour gameplay.

Seems the answer is simple. Keep the dots (but adjust them to fade with distance), and make them an option feature that can be turned on/off.

Now, i wonder if the devs will happen across this thread?
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:40 PM
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Well it would seem that the opinion on this matter is split into two camps: Those who favour realism, and those who favour gameplay.

Seems the answer is simple. Keep the dots (but adjust them to fade with distance), and make them an option feature that can be turned on/off.

Now, i wonder if the devs will happen across this thread?
I'm all for them being an option but my personal opinion is that its just too difficult to spot planes online. It's almost unrealistic without the dots because viewing the world through a computer screen presents some issues.

I've had situations online recently where my wingman and I lose each other never to be seen again. I was caught low by 3 spitfires at the tip of the german runway after takeoff on isles of doom (mountain top airfield). My buddy was circling above so I called for help. I said "Im at the west tip of the german mountain top airfield with 3 spits at the same level as the airfiled" He said "I'm circling there right now I don't see a thing". I evaded the spits for a good 3 minutes while no help arrived. My buddy couldn't believe he couldnt find 4 planes circling within such a small area and I couldnt believe he couldnt find us either. I burned up like a meteor and he still couldnt' find me.

This has happened a bunch of times. Where are you? IM RIGHT HERE!! I don't see anything...

I'm not sure if the dots are the solution but something needs to happen. Maybe reflections off of shinny aircraft parts?

I'm all for realism but certain things such as spotting planes are less realistic as is just because you cant spot things on the screen as you would in real life. Spotting aircraft should require keen eyes but you shouldnt not be able to find someone whos telling you exactly where they are..
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:49 PM
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I'm all for them being an option but my personal opinion is that its just too difficult to spot planes online. It's almost unrealistic without the dots because viewing the world through a computer screen presents some issues.
I disagree. Yes, viewing the world thought a computer screens present s issues, but those issues are solved by having an adjustable field of view. I have a button on my throttle that i use to toggle fields of views. I use wide field of view for broad observation, and a narrow field of view for close scanning. Doing it that way is a heck of a lot more realistic than having obvious artificial sprites appearing over top of objects. That's basically like having a radar alerting you to planes you wouldn't otherwise have noticed. There's absolutely nothing realistic about artificially highlighting aircraft for us.
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