Suddenly Spit IIa on all the servers?

[ATAG_Bliss]

But cheese you know as well as I do, that RL isn't close to what we have now, especially for the climb rate of a MkIa. That thing can barely get out of it's own way, let alone climb. I'm just asking, for the time being, to see how well you do if you force the red team up high (especially with how sickly the 1a acts up there) and see what happens. I'm not suggesting that what we have now is in anyway, shape, or form, correct. Just basing on the fact that any 109 can run circles around a 1a currently especially in a climb.

[esmiol]

most of the people who cry...need to learn to fly with theur plane...

you don't fly the same way in all circonstance... don't blame the plane but the pilot!

[LoBiSoMeM]

If someday we have an early pacific scenario, with zeros against all allied fighters, with accurate FMs...

War in uneven as hell...

[Madfish]

The core problem is: dogfight servers SHOULDN'T have red/blue at all.

All this complaining and crying can be fixed VERY easily. Give both sides the SAME planes. Period.


History, performance, FM blablablabla - all pointless. The pilots of the past had no clue what their enemies weakness was. Also they didn't have 20000 flying hours and a respawn button when they died! They didn't fly reckless sometimes because inexperienced fighters literally peed in their pants. An ace was worth something back then - today everyone can be an as*, eh ace.



Dogfight servers should have open plane selection. Give the red team a red overlay and a special red mark and the same goes for blue. Then everyone can fight out who's really the best - and not just sitting in the best plane while only being a mediocre pilot.


On real co-op/campaign servers it wouldn't matter because numbers etc are often different and thus it's always imbalanced by design.

[Das Attorney]

Originally Posted by Madfish

The core problem is: dogfight servers SHOULDN'T have red/blue at all.

All this complaining and crying can be fixed VERY easily. Give both sides the SAME planes. Period.


History, performance, FM blablablabla - all pointless. The pilots of the past had no clue what their enemies weakness was. Also they didn't have 20000 flying hours and a respawn button when they died! They didn't fly reckless sometimes because inexperienced fighters literally peed in their pants. An ace was worth something back then - today everyone can be an as*, eh ace.



Dogfight servers should have open plane selection. Give the red team a red overlay and a special red mark and the same goes for blue. Then everyone can fight out who's really the best - and not just sitting in the best plane while only being a mediocre pilot.


On real co-op/campaign servers it wouldn't matter because numbers etc are often different and thus it's always imbalanced by design.

Respectfully, I disagree. Maybe there could be some servers where the same plane is used by all, but when I've played Il2 with just the same planes, it tends to be the same thing (tactics-wise) ad infinitum. The best fights imo have had different types of planes, where differing strengths of the planes change how the battle plays out.

Just my opinion though. Maybe others feel different.

Bliss - You mentioned that you want to draw the red pilots up to high altitude. You could tempt them up by changing the height of the bomber raids to something higher than at present. Then they should have enough incentive to intercept and the 109's escorting them (players) could engage. The bombers are quite low at the moment I noted when I was on your server so currently there's not that much incentive for red to get much higher than them. Just a thought

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by Das Attorney

Respectfully, I disagree. Maybe there could be some servers where the same plane is used by all, but when I've played Il2 with just the same planes, it tends to be the same thing (tactics-wise) ad infinitum. The best fights imo have had different types of planes, where differing strengths of the planes change how the battle plays out.

Just my opinion though. Maybe others feel different.

Sorry but please re-read my post. I didn't say everyone has to fly the SAME plane. I said everyone should fly a plane of their choice against a plane of his choice. Nothing would stop you from flying 109's against spits. Ironically it's often the people who want to have the upper hand who're against this type of selection. And if you're not one of them - don't worry: you'll have enough opportunity to fly your 109 against spits.

[Das Attorney]

Originally Posted by Madfish

Sorry but please re-read my post. I didn't say everyone has to fly the SAME plane. I said everyone should fly a plane of their choice against a plane of his choice. Nothing would stop you from flying 109's against spits. Ironically it's often the people who want to have the upper hand who're against this type of selection. And if you're not one of them - don't worry: you'll have enough opportunity to fly your 109 against spits.

Fair enough I got the wrong end of the stick there. That would be a lot better. I do a lot of that sort of game with my mates on IL2 and it's quite fun. Personally though, I prefer a historical battle if it's available.

EDIT: As in Luftwaffe vs RAF or USN vs IJN etc. not specific recreations of actual battles

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by Madfish

The core problem is: dogfight servers SHOULDN'T have red/blue at all.

So tell me, how do you know who's who in a full real server (no icons)? You can easily tell the difference between a spit and a 109. If you do what you want, then you can't fly without those bright red and blue icons.

[schnorchel]

this remind me that lots luftwaffe pilots just vanish and never show up in everyserver after the il2 1946 patch m4.07 is out. Do not tell me that you are not good enough. german is bad guy so has to go to h#ll. Finally I realize that this is just a game do not take it so serious. I still have lot things to do in real life.

[CaptainDoggles]

Guys, just ignore ElAurens. He's a BlitzPig, and they only recruit trolls to their squad.