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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-06-2011, 04:56 PM
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I use an axis and let it in full before begin spawn in a mission.

ACE, get yourself a lady or man. Maybe five posts to "try" be "cool"?

You need a life ASAP.
Oh oh..

I have seen this before.. When Lo realise he is wrong he resorts to personal attacks to take the focus off the fact that he is wrong

Oh well.. This thread was interesting for awhile, too bad these types are allowed to carry on like this
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:00 PM
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Oh well.. This thread was interesting for awhile, too bad these types are allowed to carry on like this
Testing things and making videos showing stuff of Cliffs of Dover sim?

Yes, people of my kind need to be banned of forums. We need more users like you, with relevant contributions...
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:08 PM
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Testing things and making videos showing stuff of Cliffs of Dover sim?

Yes, people of my kind need to be banned of forums. We need more users like you, with relevant contributions...
Lob...Ok listen

Do you know what a personal attack is?

Because you do it EVERYTIME... do you understand this?

It doesnt do anything for you my friend and people get pi$$ed off real quick and will have no further dealing with you or take anything you say serioulsy..

SO

some friendly advice, yes we like having folks like you around testing and helping out the community..what we DONT want is you always reverting to personal attacks to aid your discussion..

You seem to speak good english so im guessing you understand where im coming from.

like i say, just some friendly advice

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Old 09-06-2011, 05:37 PM
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Lobisomem: You make some very good, valid and useful points, but you're putting them forward in an aggressive manner. Stop the personal attacks, just tell people what you tested and what you found out, it's very simple.

Ace: I don't know who started it and frankly by this point i don't care because we're way beyond the point of a justified initial response to a provocative poster. We are now at the point where you make 5 posts in a row to wind him up, you don't even make a single one but clutter up the entire thread.

I don't want to lock this when testing is being done and useful findings are surfacing, so if any moderating is to be done it will be centered on you two and not the thread itself and we all know what this means.

Please, calm your tempers and mind your manners and attitudes somewhat.

I think this is a fair and ample warning to play nice. If you guys don't stop biting on each other's throat i'll have no other choice but to enforce the rules: if i don't do it in this case then i will have no credibility to demand other people to respect the same rules.

Please don't make me start banning grown-up people in a useful thread just because they can't accept different opinions
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:56 PM
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We are now at the point where you make 5 posts in a row to wind him up, you don't even make a single one but clutter up the entire thread.
Hardly

But like you said, you don't care.. So from here on out Ill fight fire with fire since the mods are not able or willing to care
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:56 PM
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Hardly

But like you said, you don't care.. So from here on out Ill fight fire with fire since the mods are not able or willing to care
I'll fight fire with proper modeled wind...



Out of here, will install the beta patch... And the topic must be open, Madfish. We have USEFULL info here.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:46 PM
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Lobisomem: You make some very good, valid and useful points, but you're putting them forward in an aggressive manner. Stop the personal attacks, just tell people what you tested and what you found out, it's very simple.

Ace: I don't know who started it and frankly by this point i don't care because we're way beyond the point of a justified initial response to a provocative poster. We are now at the point where you make 5 posts in a row to wind him up, you don't even make a single one but clutter up the entire thread.

I don't want to lock this when testing is being done and useful findings are surfacing, so if any moderating is to be done it will be centered on you two and not the thread itself and we all know what this means.

Please, calm your tempers and mind your manners and attitudes somewhat.

I think this is a fair and ample warning to play nice. If you guys don't stop biting on each other's throat i'll have no other choice but to enforce the rules: if i don't do it in this case then i will have no credibility to demand other people to respect the same rules.

Please don't make me start banning grown-up people in a useful thread just because they can't accept different opinions
I wrote it in the thread regarding good moderation, I wrote it in a PM I sent to Alpha. I will write it here again because there is NOTHING worse than moderators openly pointing fingers at forum members. Especially if those posts are not beneficial to the thread in terms of additional content.

Those red posts should be done by PM and nothing else.

Writing in threads is only causing additional stress and not relaxing the situation but making it worse.

Also you can't expect members to always go back to read posts that are maybe long gone because the thread progressed. Often a thread progresses too fast and they will never even see what you wrote. Not in this case but there have been cases. I don't see the meaning of this.

Please, moderators. Could you please get rid of that bad habit? It's really unprofessional and doing nothing good at all. Pretty please?


That said I must admit the thread got way out of hand. I don't think closing it would be such a bad thing since I can't see anything new coming to the table but spam.

Solving this problem is easy:

1) PATCH: Spawn planes with locked tail wheels and brakes on
2) Ask vintage plane pilots about plane behavior during winds
3) Eventually test if the physics engine works right when the new engine is done (until then a big fix would be a waste of time anyways)
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