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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-06-2011, 04:06 PM
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That's a different question.
Well it is not a question, it is an observation..

The observation being that the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph)

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One question is if the plane should face the wind. The answer is yes.
The question?

I don't recall anyone asking that question?

But at least we agree on the answer, in that I pointed out in my 1st post in this thread that the plane should stop turning once it is 'in line' with the wind. Assuming it is the wind that is causing it to spin.

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The other question is... how many speed of wind is needed to face the wind in a grass field?
In essance we really don't need to know the exact number.. What we do know is the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph).

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Well, obviously the speed of wind needed will be high, since plane weights and it's wheels have friction, plane will not rotate except in case of a very strong wind.
Agreed

Which means there is a 'bug' in IL-2 CoD because we are seeing planes move, turn, spin at speeds far less than 18mps (39mph).

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This weekend I'll fly a real taildragger again but from a grass field. If there's some wind I'll do the test to see what happens
That would be interesting, but, does this tail dragger have the same surface area and weight of a WWII configured Spitfire? If not I don't see how the test results will prove anything one way or another.

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Anyway, most of the things we are discussing in this post will be adressed, since Luthier told that the taxiing behaviour will be corrected (I hope, introducing propwash and some more friction to the ground when static).
One thing I have learned over the years about software companys is that 'talk is cheap'.. Ill belive it when I.. if I see it!

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IMHO it is a bug that a WWII configured Spitfire will sit and spin in winds of 10mps (22mph) based on the FACT that the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph).
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:07 PM
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To the "new" wind guy, the FM expert: nice! Now you know how winds works in CloD.
LoBiSoMeM.. You really need to slow down and read peoples posts before you respond.. Because I knew how wind works before I even posted in this thread.. Which I proved in my very first post in this thread.. Which is why I consider the Spit spinning a bug.. In that wind speeds of 10mps (22mph) or less should NOT cause a 4,000lb+ plane to spin in a grass field.

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Maybe some tweak is needed.
At last!

I am glad I was able to change your mind on how wind works! Becuase in your posts prior to my examples you were saying it is NOT a bug.. And now your admiting it needs to be fixxed.

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But don't change the subject...
LoBiSoMeM.. You really need to slow down and read peoples posts before you respond.. Because I have been on subject the whole time! And my notes from Australian Bureau of Meteorology are on topic too. The topic being we know the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph). Yet we see a 4,000lbs+ Spitfire in game spinning in a grass field, which NOW even you have come around to admit that it is a bug that needs fixxing (tweaking). I am just glad I could assist you in realsing that!

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You AGAIN don't go in FMB to test things and jump here to talk a lot. You never learn. You don't even test in FMB if the plane stops spinning facing wind and now will bother the world as a expert in winds behaviour.
Actully I fear it is you that will never learn and talks too much and reads too little. In that in my very 1st post in this thread I pointed out the plane should stop spinning once it is facing into the wind.

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IMHO it is a bug that a WWII configured Spitfire will sit and spin in winds of 10mps (22mph) based on the FACT that the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph).
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:34 PM
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IMHO it is a bug that a WWII configured Spitfire will sit and spin in winds of 10mps (22mph) based on the FACT that the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph).
Spawn with brakes on... We already move on... "Australian Bureau of Meteorology"...
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