Thread about the 109

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Re-read what I posted.



You point the nose and then you unload the airframe for a snapshot. That is different from constantly pulling G's while you fire for a tracking shot.

Bold letter now??? GunRunner would be disappointed.

You don't point the nose to where you think the target will be. You do point the crosshairs where you think the target will be and unload. It is a wing platform not a nose gun btw.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Bold letter now??? GunRunner would be disappointed.

You don't point the nose to where you think the target will be. You do point the crosshairs where you think the target will be and unload. It is a wing platform not a nose gun btw.

Wow are you really going to argue those semantics with me? First of all the 109 has 2 nose guns, both of which are more than potent enough to kill enemy pilots and cripple airframes. Secondly the difference between where the nose is pointing and where the gunsight is pointing is negligible.

You've been nothing but antagonistic. What's your problem?

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Wow are you really going to argue those semantics with me? First of all the 109 has 2 nose guns, both of which are more than potent enough to kill enemy pilots and cripple airframes. Secondly the difference between where the nose is pointing and where the gunsight is pointing is negligible.

You've been nothing but antagonistic. What's your problem?

The 109 gunsight and the straps off view. That is the problem. Hey, it's great you found a method of success. You said you didn't even know about "straps off" view and then you gave us all a lesson on how to take a snapshot in default view. I didn't need the lesson, but thanks anyway. So, we can put you down as CLoD 109 gunsight is good to go. Enjoy the game.

[CaptainDoggles]

I will enjoy flying the game. You can enjoy flying the forums.

The intent was to show it can be done, and it's not that hard. The snapshot bit wasn't for you it was for newbies. You came into this thread with a half-page, poorly written whine because you like the way 1946 did it better, essentially asking the developers of a flight sim to purposely make something less realistic for everybody because Lord MadBlaster doesn't like it. Forgive me for sharing a method to success in hopes others might use it to get more enjoyment out of the game you insufferable sourpuss.

Go back to 1946, we've got enough whiners here.

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I will enjoy flying the game. You can enjoy flying the forums.

The intent was to show it can be done, and it's not that hard. The snapshot bit wasn't for you it was for newbies. You came into this thread with a half-page, poorly written whine because you like the way 1946 did it better, essentially asking the developers of a flight sim to purposely make something less realistic for everybody because Lord MadBlaster doesn't like it. Forgive me for sharing a method to success in hopes others might use it to get more enjoyment out of the game you insufferable sourpuss.

Go back to 1946, we've got enough whiners here.

Your a quite a piece of work. You freely admit you don't use the "straps off" view and didn't even know it existed. So your concern about less realism, not believable since your method blows it off entirely. If you re-read my poorly written whine more closely, you will note I made the point that users like you have found workarounds.

Pretend for a moment. You make a game. You put a functionality in it. You beta test it. You find out from the beta testers that they don't use the function. Logically, you fix it so that they want to use it. Or, you just put the game in the garbage can with your many cans of beer CD.

[Blackdog_kt]

Come on guys, lighten up

[NedLynch]

CaptainDoggles wrote it exactely as it should be in order to place a good shot on your target. Anyway trying to pull lead and firing while using the elevators is just going to make your bullets arc more behind the target (according to experience, the book "in pursuit" and the "Schiessfiebel" from 1944, the original is posted somewhere on the forum here as a pdf, quite fascinating for those who understand german, going to see if I can post a link maybe) making you pull even more lead.
And Blackdog, I think the "save custom view" option as we have it in RoF is the best way to go. Just give people the option to save 3 or so custom positions and this discussion should go away. Anyway I don't inderstand the big fuss about it, if you have a track ir or similar device you are pretty much in the same position as the pilots in WWII, they had to lean over just the same to aim through the crosshairs, no big deal at all if you have your profile set up to your needs or just use precision for a moment there.

[trumps]

i definately prefer the 109 sight to the RAF type, i also use TiR5 and after resetting my center point when jumping into the 109 have less problems keeping it centered than with the RAF jobbies which i find drift out of focus excessively during manuvering and require me to over extend my head position to get it centered again.
regarding the 109 in combat, i pretty much fly the E-1 exclussively these days
it is an absolute weapon, i love it. it is definately a zoom and boomer, and can spiral climb away from anything. the main thing to remember is to always leave yourself an escape route if you do somehow end up in a disadvantageous situation, the 109 will out accelerate and outdive all others, literally leave em standing, so unless i know my intended target is a sure kill i don't get involved in a fight below 2k. this way i have room to dive away if i'm in the poo.
the biggest problem i find is actually spotting aircraft below me at any sort of distance, makes it hard to use effectively at times.

Cheers
Craig

[Daniël]

The placing of the German gunsight is very smart. Your richt eye sees the sight and the left can see the environment. When your both eyes would see the sight the aiming could get more difficult. You can try this by holding two fingers at different distances from your face. If you concentrate on the closest one the furthest isn't clear. If you focus on the furthest the closest isnt clear. The closest finger is the sight, the furthest the plane.
Very simple, but so smart.

[trumps]

true the E-3 hits harder, but the E-1 has huge reserves of ammo, and can be aimed very precisely, it is not difficult to take out 5-6 bombers in a single sortie, you can accurately concentrate your fire on specific parts of the enemy without recoil affecting your aim. crew compartments, and engines are devestated quickly by the high rate of accurate fire. what many people forget is that it is not esential to literally blow the enemy apart or out of the sky, if you get them the pilot, or get the engines leaking oil/coolant to a reasonable degree then they probably wont make it home, gravity wins 9 times out of 10
you are correct the 109 is quick down low, but with the extra speed carried from the dive the Zoom back up to height and an advantageous position is quicker. all in all the 109 is a fantastic plane andto me the most fun and rewarding to fly and fight well with, definately a precision instrument!

Craig