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Old 08-27-2011, 12:27 AM
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how can singers record in stereo if their mic is two channels IN THE SAME SPOT?
This is true of individual instruments too, guitars are usually mic'd using one single mic. Stereo comes into it's own when the song is mixed more than when it's recorded.

For example you might have 8 microphones on a drum kit, each mono, you then 'place' them into the mix, so you'd mix it as you would look at it, so you'd have the right hand crash cymbal mixed to the right, it's just a mono track placed to the right of the stereo 'picture'.

So for a drum kit you might have the Bass drum dead centre, the cymbals left and right the toms mixed relative to where they are in the kit from right to left etc. This gives each track space and it's more natural sounding because a drum kit has width and it's what your ears expect.

Vocals usually go dead centre but you can widen them quite a lot by copying the mono track and using 2 mono tracks to create a stereo track.

After all, stereo is just two slightly different mono tracks played at the same time.
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:19 AM
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thanks for the info but not being mixed radio talking seems a szchizophrnia simulation of voices coming from the center of your head i guess

check out how rare and RELAXING these are:

do you know more like these? i cant find them




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Old 08-27-2011, 12:30 PM
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Binaural isn't used much simply because it only really works with headphones.

It's created using 2 microphones placed as they would be if they were your ears. Sometimes a fake head is used and they put the mics either side. The effect is that you're listening to the room not just the music.

Like I said it's not widley used because if you listen to a binaural recording through speakers the effect just doesn't work. Which is why we have surround sound systems now.

Radio is mixed, it goes through all sorts of sound processing before it is transmitted. Again, binaural won't really work over FM radio because the signal is heavily compressed before being transmitted (this sort of levels out the sound)

There are more binaural recordings here http://www.binaural.com/serendipity/index.php
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:35 PM
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i heard if you listen to stereo with headphones sound comes from within your head, binaural instead comes from outside

doesnt sound very healthy

most people use headphones nowadays there should be more binaural imho

seems binaural is made for headphones and stereo for speakers

i miss some naturality in recording as those links

listening to the radio i often get weird freak out feelings

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why this is so rare:



in fact admit it this is probably the 1st time you see a singer using two mics, cough supresion cough cough

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checkout how when domingo moves the head you can tell by the sound

i miss that

hell why they dont do it in radio, i cant locat radio voices, and the music ones have position but static

i want to listen katy perry and be able to tell by the sound how she dances maybe i could tell how she wispers in my ear

godam world gotta change it

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Old 08-27-2011, 01:12 PM
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I have seen singers use 2 mics before, lots of times.

I agree with you about the use of Stereo, it's not used as creativley as it used to be, if you listen to some late 60's stereo recordings they would do something crazy like have the drums far left the bass far right and stick the vocals over to one side too.

It's much more subtle these days, you get things ping ponging around and they tend to use more width. Some stereo Beatles recordings are really interesting through headphones. You can remove certain sounds simply by messing around with the balance because they have sounds comming out of only one side.

Strawberry Fields Forever by The Beatles is a good exampe. You can pan left or right and get a drastic change in the sound of the song.
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:42 PM
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you know what im gonna stick to the 60,s

i love the sound of puff the magic dragon style, men at the side and lady in the center

doors is good

any more recomendations?
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not 60s but a great duo called orbital,that im sure winny knows,ist track off brown album,best with headphones on and head off
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