Where is everybody

Richie · #1 08-24-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SNAFU

Sure, diversity is a great thing and I don´t see why someone complains about the few simulation elements in CloD and wants them to have gone for the rest of all players too?

Finally someday, if CloD will see old age, there will be more diverse server options. I just predict, that the most popular server will not be the full real server, which centers around realisitc simulation immersion.

More just like the old Il2 1946 Spits-vs-109 airquake servers - and that`s what the most players want and so why simulate at all? Why not go for WoP, but I am drifting...

Spits VS 109s...That's who I want to get started up with COD. When they start a few missions with their name on them maybe some of the old cronies will finally start up with COD.

JG53Frankyboy · #2 08-24-2011, 10:30 AM

i personally just want build some 'easy' COOP misions (without the need to go too deep in this script programming......) and fly them with my squadmates.
time will tell.......

JG52Uther · #3 08-24-2011, 02:00 PM

Unfortunately without HL style online war coops there is not much interest for me now.Hopefully it will get better, but I have serious doubts, and have all but lost interest.
Once the new patch is here there will be a jump in online numbers, but if there are still problems then the numbers will die off again.

CWMV · #4 08-26-2011, 05:01 AM

Well, as one of the guys that hasnt had much to do with it I can tell you why I havent, and why everyone I know hasnt.

I don't have anything against it exactly, but its just uninteresting, unfinished, and hollow. I'm sure that when a finished product is released the players will come in droves but the reputation that this sim has precedes it far and wide. I know many guys that simply wont bother with it, and wont until its of the same quality as IL2. Understand their mindset, why leave a good thing right?

If we wanted to just fly a simulator, we would fly FSX or some such sim. In that regard as far as CEM sure, CoD is fine.
But its a COMBAT simulator, and in this regard its just a bit, hollow compared to the alternatives.
Then add in that it isn't visually gratifying and confined to a very small, and to many uninteresting part of the war and well its just a recipe for disaster. Why should we bother to learn to fly the new sim when it doesn't offer anything that we want?

Richie · #5 08-26-2011, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMV

Well, as one of the guys that hasnt had much to do with it I can tell you why I havent, and why everyone I know hasnt.

I don't have anything against it exactly, but its just uninteresting, unfinished, and hollow. I'm sure that when a finished product is released the players will come in droves but the reputation that this sim has precedes it far and wide. I know many guys that simply wont bother with it, and wont until its of the same quality as IL2. Understand their mindset, why leave a good thing right?

If we wanted to just fly a simulator, we would fly FSX or some such sim. In that regard as far as CEM sure, CoD is fine.
But its a COMBAT simulator, and in this regard its just a bit, hollow compared to the alternatives.
Then add in that it isn't visually gratifying and confined to a very small, and to many uninteresting part of the war and well its just a recipe for disaster. Why should we bother to learn to fly the new sim when it doesn't offer anything that we want?

If you vulch in a server where it's permitted you're a dirty SOB though.

CWMV · #6 08-26-2011, 06:27 AM

Ive never understood this "Vulching" concept. That's combat!
The only thing I hate is the d-bags who shoot parachutes. That was not tolerated for the most part, and as far as I'm concerned anyone who does so should earn an instant ban.

Its one of the reasons I don't care for spits V 109's, too many times I see a guy shoot someone down, then swing around and shoot the pilot in his 'chute. Disgusting.

CaptainDoggles · #7 08-26-2011, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMV

Ive never understood this "Vulching" concept. That's combat!
The only thing I hate is the d-bags who shoot parachutes. That was not tolerated for the most part, and as far as I'm concerned anyone who does so should earn an instant ban.

Its one of the reasons I don't care for spits V 109's, too many times I see a guy shoot someone down, then swing around and shoot the pilot in his 'chute. Disgusting.

So for the things that happened in real life that you agree with, "that's combat, suck it up" but for the things that happened in real life that you have a problem with, "ban those guys, they're d-bags". Got it.

CWMV · #8 08-26-2011, 06:48 AM

Ha! Whatever dude.
There are rules to combat, and things that you just don't do.
If one of my soldiers had shot a captured enemy combatant, he would have earned a prison sentence. Now it happens, sure, but that doesn't mean its right or endorsed. And when it does happen its punished severely unless there are extreme extenuating circumstances.

Same thing then. It happened, but was not wide spread, and those that did it without a dang good reason were ostricised and punished. Galland himself said he regarded it as murder.
You implying that because it happened on extremely rare occasions that it should just be accepted and condoned, which is utter BS. It was bad conduct then, its bad conduct now.
But of course armchair warriors think that anything and everything goes.

CaptainDoggles · #9 08-26-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMV

But of course armchair warriors think that anything and everything goes.

That was a nice little jab, implying that I have no military experience (as if that matters even a single iota). You'll notice I didn't give my own views on the matter; I was just pointing out your cognitive dissonance on display.

I could make the argument that war in general is not right, and warmongering nations are ostracised and condemned. Should we therefore cease all simulation of war? I think not. We do this for fun, and lots of people take it way too seriously.

Have a good evening.

Richie · #10 08-26-2011, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMV

Ive never understood this "Vulching" concept. That's combat!
The only thing I hate is the d-bags who shoot parachutes. That was not tolerated for the most part, and as far as I'm concerned anyone who does so should earn an instant ban.

Its one of the reasons I don't care for spits V 109's, too many times I see a guy shoot someone down, then swing around and shoot the pilot in his 'chute. Disgusting.

I agree on the base straffing I think it should be aloud..1 it's fun..2 it will cancel out a time of no action boredom in a hurry, scramble and get that fkr!!. How many times have you been shot in your chute? It's the only arena I fly in and I've been flying in it from the start. Maybe 20 times from the start that I've been shot in my chute. That's what 5-6 years? I can put up with that and the ones that do it are idiots not the people who fly in there constantly.