IL2 and Sound Modding

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by uf_josse

Hi all

So, Bearcat, i am here, you can fire at will
Yes, i am modding, yes, with some modders, we have made our own site...
And yes, i made some types of mods, like modification on clouds, smoke visibility, new smokes for trains and more longer wreckage smokes, new QMB with more options, french localisation of the sound mod and much more.....

Why we did'nt have some options like smoke and visibility is clearly because at the beginning of the game, PCS can't run such options without falling on knees... it was a good choice of Oleg and i respect that...

Clearly, i respect Oleg and his work..... but, i found some things really strange , like in weapons and.... yes, i am also tweaking weapons.... is it so bad that italians have correct machine guns or 13.2 MG on IAR instead MG131 ? Ask romanian peoples

So, i know (as many people said to me) that only the .50 are to weak i received many mps to say me that the only prob in the sim was the weakness of .50 but, dont touch other weapons........ pathetic for me.
Italian or romanian weapons, by example are clearly widly undermodeled. Not impressions..... just facts and numbers i can see.

So, discuss is impossible here , enough flameware......
I tried to discuss at AAA and.... nothing was really clear, only the clear will of MrJolly to no accept DM/FM/Weapons modding.... so as said as AAA, accept or leave..... i did'nt agree, i leaved.

But, yes, i will continue, diffuse my mods, never for DM or FM, just for weapons, but not only... i will try to repaint some pits, like IAR.... but, don't be affraid, breda are allways much weaker than .50, just more accurate.

Italians pilots can now shoot allied planes like in real life. No more, no less. .50 have now more API... better for pacific, harder for western front. to shoot down and flame foe planes. Where is the problem ? Yak can now suffering dammage by 13.2 MG, is it a so great crime ? only red can win ?

One more time, only modding weapons trying to have more accuracy.... it is my crime, i am here, fire at will...

BTW, i think that the greatest danger for all is to hide all is not declared politcally correct.... this way , has nobody any view or control on what is done..... your force modders like me to be "underground"...... bad thing IMHO.

You will never know what we are doing and for this reason, you just have to be affraid and it maintain suspicion , for all.... that will kill the community, not the mods. Here is the shame. Hidding things are the best way to suspicion and ...... silent modders that will cheating.... not my way, but i am not alone. What i can do with weapons is really simple to do. The difference is so tiny, that i am pretty sure some of you have allready been shot down by modded weapons, and you saw surely nothing.....

ANd BTW, yes, i allready modified a flightmodel.... it was surely the greatest cheat in the net...... i put LI-2 FM on C47....... just, LI2 has no prob with COG as C47 have.... Wow, what a cheat

Over and out for me.

I have nothing to fire.... you are doing your thing man.. more power to you.. This is what I had to say about you...

Bear in mind that the same guys who I quoted in that post a few pages back from the AAA site are not solely AAA members just as I am not a "UBI" guy.. I hit SHQ, SOH, Frugals,AAA,here... While I see no point in being hostile to those who prefer to use mods since many whom I know have nothing but the enjoyment of the sim at the heart as to why theychose to use mods, that does not change the fact that there are others who either think that 1C got it wrong and they know better... they can "fix" it.. and they aren't all at AAA, or they just want to take it to the max... in fact.. the two guys that I quoted said as much in their post that was deleted at AAA. There are other sites... other modders that we don't even know about, and those guys have no qualms at all about altering FMs, DMs, or any part of the sim that they can figure out.

Nothing to fire at. Just the facts. I still think however, whether or not you think you are fixing things or regardless to your intentions, and mind you, I don't know you well enough to qualify your intent.. that touching with the DMs,weapons or FMs is a slippery slope and one that totally removes any prospect whatsoever of fair play in a competitive venue where mods are allowed. I can't stop you, I refuse to debate with you, and I certainly am in no opinion to judge YOU.. but I think that my time in this sim, simming in general gives me the rioght to my opinion. I have found that the 50s in this sim are great... Personally I think the problem is not the 50s.. otherwise the 50s on the P-40 would be the same as the 50s on the P-51... and they arent because the planes are different, but the problems can be addressed not by modding the FMs but by changing the way you fly. Klingstroem proved that with is tips on flying the P-51. You say that some of us habve been shot down by modded weapons... but if one h=guy has modded weapons and the other guy does not, can you NOT see where that would be a problem? You and all the other modders are going to do what you want.. and no arguing on my part or anyone elses will change that, neither will my beating you and everyone else upside the head with gripes about the state of affairs at every turn. It is what it is. But I will not let you and all the other modders pi$$ on the sim and call it rain. Hacking the sim has ruined any chance of fair and truly competitive online play. FACT. Does that mean that you or any of the other modders are "bad people" or are cheaters? From my point of view... of course not... and again.. I don't know any of you well enough to judge you or your intent but the fact still remains that hacking the sim has done what it has done... You can defend it, justify it, whatever... but it still doesn't change the facts... just as those who are opposed to the hacks that made modding possible can complain and name call and point fingers till the cows come home... it still doesnt change the FACTs.. the sim is hacked. Now will that stop me from enjoying the sim? Nope.... because for me much of my enjoyment of the sim is offline and the online part has the added element of the great guys from the 99th that I fly with every time I get online and all those who come into our coops or whose coops we enter... in addition to this still great, still awesome, still the BEST D@MN WWII SIM ON THE MARKET flight sim.

So the bottom line is ... don't try to drag me into some debate... I wont bite... the sim is hacked, for the guys who hate it , it sucks... the guys who hacked it ruined the possibilities for true competition online.. for them THAT sucks, and they know it that's why they keep defending themselves... get over it. If you guys are truly men of honor and you truly respect Oleg and his work, then you all will do your best to keep it as pristine as possible.... and try to do your part to make sure that this sim doesn't go the way of every other sim that "benefitted" from being moddable. Don't let that happen to this sim.. and it is truly up to all of you because I don't mod... so where the mods go I have no control over.

And this whole offline online debate is just BS. See the above. The guys who hacked the sim ruined it for any kind of serious online competitive play. So the guys who are gung ho about the mods just need to accept that, stop defending it because it is indefensible, as indefensible as the fact that the SIM IS HACKED is fixable by debate from the anti mod crowd. So GET OVER IT and move on. That whole offline majority enslaved to the will of the tyrannical onliners is just pure unadulterated BULL$HIT. Don't try to justify this with that. At this point as I have been saying, why justify anything..... THE SIM IS HACKED. Like Kelly says.... the things that the anti modders feared will come to pass... and things will continue to go downhill. The only way for this to not happen is if 1C steps in, and even then it will be just a matter of time, or if the community of modders themselves remember the sim the claim to have so much respect for, and try to foster the right attitude. Human nature and history has shown that that dream is .... suspect in the least.