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[Crumpp]

Your reading comprehension certainly leaves a lot to be desired Eugene. So nice of you to repeat what I already said

No it was not a repeat. It was to clearly put out what happens in a float bowl type carburetor when subjected to negative G.

You wrongly stated it was a "two stage" event with the implication being it takes time.

No, it happens almost immediately and is two separate events brought about by subjecting the fuel metering system to negative G.

In a lean cut out, it immediately quits but will restart as soon as fuel is delivered.

A rich cut out immediately begins skipping and then quits.... It does not restart immediately and delivery of more fuel only prolongs the restart.

Even a pressure carb or TBI will have issues under Negative G. It is a distinct disadvantage for piston power fighters using such a metering system.

Only a direct injection metering system is immune to accelerations.

[Crumpp]

Please understand most of us know that the ingame behaviour is incorrect and that the flight models are not 1:1 with reality in many aspects. It's not "gamer fantasy" so much as it's "the simulation model is incomplete".

I understand and don't take offense please at the "gamer fantasy." I refer to people who distort the way the physical works to get some desired advantage in a game.

There was a distinct disadvantage in fuel metering technology. One that was frustrating for Allied pilots in a dogfight. Solving it got the attention of aeronautical research agencies on both sides of the Atlantic.

Pressure Carbs and TBI helped considerably but were not in use during the Battle of Britain.

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

No it was not a repeat. It was to clearly put out what happens in a float bowl type carburetor when subjected to negative G.

You wrongly stated it was a "two stage" event with the implication being it takes time.

No, it happens almost immediately and is two separate events brought about by subjecting the fuel metering system to negative G.

In a lean cut out, it immediately quits but will restart as soon as fuel is delivered.

A rich cut out immediately begins skipping and then quits.... It does not restart immediately and delivery of more fuel only prolongs the restart.

LOL!!!

It is a 2 stage event. First there is the lean cut out which is followed by the rich cut out. They don't, and can't, occur simultaneously. Yes it takes time!!! Your 'almost immediately' says so.

[CaptainDoggles]

It is not a two-stage process. What you are describing are two separate phenomena, occurring sequentially.

A lean mixture cutout is not necessarily followed by a rich mixture cutout.

Similarly a rich mixture cutout can happen without being preceded by a lean mixture cutout.

[TomcatViP]

Crump took some time to argument his reply so please take some too before answering.

Unless you are here to impose the ridicule point of views of spitperf.com and alike I don't know how you can't agree with simple logic and commune observation.

There is some vid on youtube with ppl playing with liquids and G wile doing some acrobatic flying. Have a look !

[Crumpp]

It is not a two-stage process. What you are describing are two separate phenomena, occurring sequentially.

A lean mixture cutout is not necessarily followed by a rich mixture cutout.

Similarly a rich mixture cutout can happen without being preceded by a lean mixture cutout.

Exactly

Here this genius tries some Negative G's in a carburetor C172. This is why I don't rent airplanes.

He experiences a lean cut out. Listen to the engine. As soon as Negative G are applied, the engine quits and restarts at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCIPx...eature=related

There is some vid on youtube with ppl playing with liquids and G wile doing some acrobatic flying. Have a look !

Yes, you can see as soon as the float comes up, it cuts the flow of fuel to the engine.

[Ze-Jamz]

lol