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Vengeanze · #1 08-14-2011, 10:27 PM

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The right to bear arms is written into US constitution.

Adopted 1791.

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You should never yield up any of your rights for the so-called common good.

So what's your take on the patriot act?

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Only when criminal punishments becomes extremely severe will you see a casual policeman walking and whistling along the lane, swinging his club like a band leaders baton.

...or perhaps when gun regulation makes it near impossible for villains to obtain a gun.

ElAurens · #2 08-14-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vengeanze

...or perhaps when gun regulation makes it near impossible for villains to obtain a gun.

You are living in a dream world if you believe that sir.

And why add the date of adoption of the US Constitution? Are you implying that somehow our freedoms are out of date?

If so you deserve the cess pool that your country is turning into.

arthursmedley · #3 08-14-2011, 10:47 PM

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If so you deserve the cess pool that your country is turning into.

Sweden is turning into a cesspool!?

ElAurens · #4 08-15-2011, 03:35 AM

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Sweden is turning into a cesspool!?

I made a bad assumption that Ven was from the UK as he is siding with them.

Oh well, this thread has run it's course anyway.

Vengeanze · #5 08-14-2011, 10:51 PM

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You are living in a dream world if you believe that sir.

Just saying that there are other alternatives than arming every citizen.

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And why add the date of adoption of the US Constitution? Are you implying that somehow our freedoms are out of date?

Implying that conditions changes over time.
Here's a pic to illustrate:

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If so you deserve the cess pool that your country is turning into.

U taught me two things with that sentence: I have learnt what a cesspool is and that you have no clue about the state of my country.

ElAurens · #6 08-15-2011, 04:01 AM

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Just saying that there are other alternatives than arming every citizen.

Implying that conditions changes over time.
Here's a pic to illustrate:

U taught me two things with that sentence: I have learnt what a cesspool is and that you have no clue about the state of my country.

Apologies, I thought you were from the UK, didn't look at the top to see where you are from. And Brits, I do like your country, I've been there long ago (1972) and totally fell for the place, but I probably would not recognise it now.

I still wonder why you feel freedom as granted in our Constitution is out of date though? Times may change but basic human rights do not.

That's why we tossed Mad King George and his rented German thugs out in the first place.

We all have made our choices, and we all have the right to keep them as we see fit. Europeans are used to living in societies where power is exercized from the top down, because of centuries of conditioning being ruled by kings.

We rejected that right from the start and are used to power deriving from the people, and having founding fathers that understood that protecting the people from their government is the single most important aspect of civil life.

But enough of this banter, time for something completely different.

Wolf_Rider · #7 08-15-2011, 04:46 AM

When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-Thomas Jefferson

AndyJWest · #8 08-15-2011, 06:07 AM

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When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-Thomas Jefferson

...and when any debate about crime, anywhere on the internet, ends up regurgitating the endless obsession of US politics with guns, there is boredom. There is more to life than shooting people. Get over it...

Wolf_Rider · #9 08-15-2011, 06:20 AM

you have me at a bit of a loss there andyjwest... get over what?

BadAim · #10 08-15-2011, 06:26 AM

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...and when any debate about crime, anywhere on the internet, ends up regurgitating the endless obsession of US politics with guns, there is boredom. There is more to life than shooting people. Get over it...

And when there is any chance for you to regurgitate your endless obsession with political correctness, Andy, you take it. Double standard much?