UFO's and extra-terrestrial life

[NedLynch]

Other dimensions are certainly a critical part in traveling to further reaches of the universe.
The thing is we are 3-dimensional beings with time as the 4th dimension sort of tacked on and taken for an unchangeable constant. Introducing other dimensions is something that we will probably not be able to comprehend.

For example, take a 2-dimensional critter, maybe and ant, and put it on a ball.
It will run and run and never ever be able to understand that it is running on a ball, a 3-dimensional object.

Something that puzzles me is also, if the universe is finite one should be able theoretically to reach it's end and to look at it from the outside. But what is on the outside, another finite universe, infinite space, nothing? How, as a 3-dimensional, spacewise, being can you wrap your head around the concept of a finite or infinite universe?

[SlipBall]

I think that the ant would run down to the base of the ball, once on the table he would make a bee line for your sandwich.

[adonys]

You guys should read Zacharia Sitchin's theory (there's a series of books about it) and read about the Phobos incident..

Then we can talk about UFO's

[NedLynch]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

I think that the ant would run down to the base of the ball, once on the table he would make a bee line for your sandwich.

However it cannot comprehend the dimensions of the sandwich since it's a 3-dimensional sandwich and upon approaching the sandwich anyway my 3-dimensional hand would turn the 2-dimensional ant into a 1-dimensional ant......uhhh yeah, stone cold killer here

[patrat1]

[QUOTE=NedLynch;320593] Something that puzzles me is also, if the universe is finite one should be able theoretically to reach it's end and to look at it from the outside. But what is on the outside, another finite universe, infinite space, nothing? QUOTE]

if the universe is finite then there is no outside.

in other words, there is no exsistance outside of the universe, because there is no outside.

[bongodriver]

[QUOTE=patrat1;320872]

Originally Posted by NedLynch

Something that puzzles me is also, if the universe is finite one should be able theoretically to reach it's end and to look at it from the outside. But what is on the outside, another finite universe, infinite space, nothing? QUOTE]

if the universe is finite then there is no outside.

in other words, there is no exsistance outside of the universe, because there is no outside.

in theory evrything that exists is filled with the 'void' beyond the universe....all the space between atoms is just empty nothing.

[CharveL]

[QUOTE=bongodriver;320877]

Originally Posted by patrat1

in theory evrything that exists is filled with the 'void' beyond the universe....all the space between atoms is just empty nothing.

Actually there is no "empty" space, anywhere. Even the darkest intergalactic voids are filled with passing neutrinos and momentary particle/anti-particle pairs that appear briefly to cancel each other out.

The only thing that "travels" faster than the speed of light is the expansion of the universe itself witch is causing the space & time between everything and everything else to expand like raisins on a rising loaf of bread.

Ironically, recent calculations from WMAP observations show the universe to be flat within about 15% accuracy.

Chew on some of that.

[Wolf_Rider]

Yes, the Earth was flat at one stage too, as well it was "provable" that the sun (geo-centrics) revolved around the Earth... It is only logical that if the sun, moon, planets and stars are seen to be moving and we are not, it must be because they are moving... here! I ask you (they said at the time) is the Earth moving? no (they replied) we cannot see that the Earth is moving... good, it was offered, it proves without a doubt that the Earth is the centre of all the heavens.


yeah right


Which brings me back to my question of; some witnesses saw UFo's zip off at high speed and others said they performed sharp 90 degree turns at high speed.

Why is it that we on Earth move with the Earth, and aren't flung off or find moving against her rotation difficult, with gyroscopic events such as the corioli effect being apparent?

Could it be, that gravity and magnetic field act as a kind of integrity field, making all behave as one?
The corioli effect of throwing a ball between two people on opposites of a playground carousel apply whichever way the carousel is spinning.
Do UFO's run a something similar field, thus enabling them to operate as a contained unit in which ship and occupants move as one??

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

Do UFO's run a something similar field, thus enabling them to operate as a contained unit in which ship and occupants move as one??

It's probably the same field which allowed the Starship Enterprise to accelerate to the speed of light without any apparent affect on the occupants.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It's probably the same field which allowed the Starship Enterprise to accelerate to the speed of light without any apparent affect on the occupants.

That's not actually true, there was a profound increase in "make up" calls