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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-02-2011, 09:56 AM
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speaking of military I see some documentary that some sas teams train with airsoft guns so do the american special forces. they even have their brand supplier called systema.
everyone can't be swat or whatever specialists they what. but it is cheap way to experience it while living ur everyday life.
I don't believe for a second that SAS and American special forces use airsoft. You train with the gear that you use in the field, and airsoft guns aren't as loud, aren't as heavy and don't have nearly as much recoil as real weapons. Not to mention the muzzle velocities are way lower.

General dynamics makes what is called Simunition, a variety of different rounds that can be fired through real weapons. My military friends say they use this when they train; I'd be willing to bet that most other armed forces use similar products.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:07 AM
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I don't believe for a second that SAS and American special forces use airsoft. You train with the gear that you use in the field, and airsoft guns aren't as loud, aren't as heavy and don't have nearly as much recoil as real weapons. Not to mention the muzzle velocities are way lower.

General dynamics makes what is called Simunition, a variety of different rounds that can be fired through real weapons. My military friends say they use this when they train; I'd be willing to bet that most other armed forces use similar products.
believe it or not. I saw it my own eyes on some sas documentary. yes u'r right. it doesn't have that recoil and not that loud. other part are just same. same operation u need same handling. and weight is same depending of which brand replica is used. not even weapon specialist can't distinguish when they have it on their hand until they pull the trigger. most training is just honing their skill like reload and other stuffs and tactics, teamwork. Sure they use other training gears. I think they use all of them.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:50 AM
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Airsoft is played by "tacticool noobs" in the same way arma is...

It is effectively a step up from milsims, and as such is VERY fun.


I have a rifle and have tracer rounds, i can CONFIRM that there is NEVER any tracer "wiggle". If you really are so strongly opinionated towards tracer wiggle, go to a shooting range at dusk and ask to see some tracer shots, the one near me often has night shoots.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:12 PM
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Airsoft is played by "tacticool noobs" in the same way arma is...

It is effectively a step up from milsims, and as such is VERY fun.


I have a rifle and have tracer rounds, i can CONFIRM that there is NEVER any tracer "wiggle". If you really are so strongly opinionated towards tracer wiggle, go to a shooting range at dusk and ask to see some tracer shots, the one near me often has night shoots.
read again u didn't understand me.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:27 AM
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General dynamics makes what is called Simunition, a variety of different rounds that can be fired through real weapons. My military friends say they use this when they train; I'd be willing to bet that most other armed forces use similar products.
You forgot to mention that Sim ammo is lethal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simunition
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