COOP play/FMB

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by furbs

Agree, but we need CO-OPs.

Why? What is it about coops that people want but feel we don't have?

Anything you could do in il-2 coops you can do in CLOD multiplayer mode.

• Moving ground vehicles? Check
• AI flights? Check
• Briefings? Check

[Blackdog_kt]

I think it's primarily about an interface remake, so that it's easier to click on friendly aircraft and spawn into them or multi-crew with others.

The rest of the needed capabilities are there just like you say and i particularly like how we can have DF and Coop style missions running on the same server simultaneously.

The other day i was fiddling around with the rudimentary map tools we got in the last patch, imagine my surprise when i discovered it's possible to create waypoints for your flight on the spot, assign waypoint properties and so on.

Negative points: The map tools info window needs some work (it's not possible to stretch it and some tools are hidden from view) and the fonts used for the tools need to be a bit more visible against the background clutter for the map.

Positive points: It's entirely possible to measure distances and headings on your map and set waypoints. In other words, you can spawn an entire group of aircraft instead of just one (if the server scripts permit it), have other people take control of them, draw up a mission while you are warming up your engines and go fly. It's like having a mini-FMB integrated into the actual gameplay session.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Why? What is it about coops that people want but feel we don't have?

Anything you could do in il-2 coops you can do in CLOD multiplayer mode.

• Moving ground vehicles? Check
• AI flights? Check
• Briefings? Check

because its something different to have two teams starting at the same time going for a missiongoal.
but sure, its totaly personal preference !!
no kind of IL2 dogfightserver gave me the fun of all the COOP online missions i flew with lot of comrades on voice coms - from the first free COOPs in 2001/02 over IOW/VEF and following online wars to the last VOW"R2" ..........

[Chivas]

I found the Warclouds 24/7 servers very satisfying. There was a number of objectives for both sides that made ground pounders, support flyers, and dogfighters quite happy. You had 24/7 wars, without the endless waiting of the Co-op servers. COD's multiplayer options should make coops unnecessary unless the players want to start the war at the same moment.

[furbs]

Im saying we should have the option of both, just like IL2.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by furbs

Im saying we should have the option of both, just like IL2.

With the exception of everybody starting at the same time, we DO have both. Everything you can do in a coop can be done in CLOD multiplayer. Frankly I feel that everyone starting at the same time is highly unrealistic anyways.

[CaptainDoggles]

Okay, fair, but the functionality is there.

Anybody could host a server where everyone joins the same side and has the same objectives, with moving ground vehicles/ships and AI aircraft.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Well, not quite everything can be done, Furbs can't jump into any of the current MP servers and have everyone flying the same side with the same objectives.

I don't have a problem with having coops, but I believe the server can be set up to whatever the group wants, like only being able to join one side, and flying against the AI and their ground forces. Why you'd want to do that I'm not sure as human opponents are more fun than AI opponents, unless the server isn't attracting enough people for both sides. Its also interesting when your not sure if the aircraft your targeting is human or AI.

[furbs]

Did any of you guys ever fly the VEF online wars?