One explanation and we will stop whining

Ataros · #1 07-20-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by adonys

and even if you don't have that time in your working hours, you can give half an hour a week from your own and personal free time to post a little update for the guys who are paying you for what you are working on.

They usually work 10-12 hours a day and sometimes more here in Russia. Overtime hours are not paid by a company usually. The legislation is poor in this respect.

I think this is one of reasons sim devs can make ends meet in Russia only. In any other country but China it would not be possible. I have seen a thread where employees of both 777 and DCS shared the same problem that the companies hardly meet ends even with low salaries and extra hours (and they charge per aircraft btw). I think CoD, RoF and DCS are the last complex sim series we see in our lifes. All others will be WoP style at best.

adonys · #2 07-20-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataros

They usually work 10-12 hours a day and sometimes more here in Russia. Overtime hours are not paid by a company usually. The legislation is poor in this respect...

I live in Romania, is the same in here as in there: long not-paid extra hours. so what? I still have time to live, post in here, read, play games, watch movies, eat, sleep, make sex, get out with friends and tons of other normal things.

#3 07-20-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataros

They usually work 10-12 hours a day and sometimes more here in Russia. Overtime hours are not paid by a company usually. The legislation is poor in this respect.

I think this is one of reasons sim devs can make ends meet in Russia only. In any other country but China it would not be possible. I have seen a thread where employees of both 777 and DCS shared the same problem that the companies hardly meet ends even with low salaries and extra hours. I think CoD, RoF and DCS are the last complex sim series we see in our lifes. All others will be WoP style at best.

Sorry, mate but THIS is hillarious, indeed... What about ROF guys? They have no problem to answer many questions... Jason is writing there too... He was even writing on forum from E3, when there was problem with credit card payments... It is all about priorities... They were answering, writing even before very important patch, which WAS NOT a disaster like CLOD ones. This is just so poor excuses... Oh poor russian devs... Only they are working 10-12 hours a day...
Look... it is all about will and about having something to say/write.

My theory is quite simple - there is no news, so no "news update"...

They have new guy for sounds right? why not to make some simple update about his work? some samples or video inside game? just this... it is not so much, but people would appreciate it.

David Hayward · #4 07-20-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz

SWhat about ROF guys?

What about them? They don't provide updates on patches. Ask them when the next patch is coming and they ignore you.

#5 07-20-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

What about them? They don't provide updates on patches. Ask them when the next patch is coming and they ignore you.

Did I said so? Here is NO, I repeat to David, read it slowly, bull - NO - reply from any CLOD developers. On ROF forums many people from 777 or with very close connection are writing or responding on daily basis - and yes, they do speak english!

I am not giving here stupid examples or excuses why there is no communication between customers and developers. People just feel left behind. No interest. No nothing. And if something, it is BS...

I absolutely understand this change in mood here since last four weeks...

David Hayward · #6 07-20-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz

Did I said so?

That is EXACTLY what you are asking for. You want Luthier to hold your hand while they work on updates. Well, despite your claims, 777 does nothing of the sort. You get the update when it is ready, and they don't hold your hand while you wait for it.

etzi · #7 07-20-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

What about them? They don't provide updates on patches. Ask them when the next patch is coming and they ignore you.

That's the stupidest thing I've heard today! If you have no idea of something, then keep your unqualified statements for you!

Thanks

David Hayward · #8 07-20-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by etzi

That's the stupidest thing I've heard today! If you have no idea of something, then keep your unqualified statements for you!

Thanks

Prove me wrong. Go to the RoF forum and ask them when the next update is coming. Or ask when the next aircraft is going to be released. Or when the flight models are going to be reviewed. Then let us know what kind of response you get.

#9 07-20-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

Prove me wrong. Go to the RoF forum and ask them when the next update is coming. Or ask when the next aircraft is going to be released. Or when the flight models are going to be reviewed. Then let us know what kind of response you get.

flight model reviewed? why?

Is it too hard for you to fly straight with it?

David Hayward · #10 07-20-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz

flight model reviewed? why?

Is it too hard for you to fly straight with it?

Flight model review to stop all the complaining about the Super Camel, the Dr1 going too fast, the SE5 glass engine, the Pup climbing too fast, the DVa being too slow, the N17 being a pig, etc, etc, etc...