IL2 Expansion coming in September???

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by adonys

..................and you are asking 30 euros for 3 campaigns (because the other 3 are the same, just with less planes/vehicles) ...................

sounds different:
"6 Campaigns in two Versions: Low (for low end Computers) and High (for medium and power mashines)

Fighter Aces! Major Helmut Wick - 25+ Missions
Fighter Aces! Flight Lieutenant J. C. Dundas - 13 Missions
No. 609 Squadrons - Spitfire - 42 Missions
No. 111 Squadron - Hurricanes - 27+ Missions
Erprobungsgruppe 210 - ME 110 - Fighter Bombers over England - 30 Missions
3./JG 2 "Richthofen - Bf 109 - 40 Missions"

for me its actually 6 campaigns , each of them has a heavy and light version.

[adonys]

yes, my mistake, they seem indeed to be six, if that's the case, but this fact doesn't change the dates of the problem at all

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by adonys

..................... of the problem at all

that should be the decission of everyone of his own IMHO

one knows what one gets, one knows the price - one can decide. Dont understand the 'fuss' about it ?!

and if one is able to find a better offline experiece for free, the better it is !

[Rattlehead]

"Worth" is a very subjective term.
If someone has a lot of fun with this add-on, then perhaps for him it is worth the money?

[robtek]

Well, some people here dont know the value of honest work, it seems.
Spending 20, with popcorn and soda, 30 bucks for a evening in the cinema with the madam is ok, but spending 30 bucks for at least 30 hours fun is too expensive.
The values are distorted, or somebody is jealous that someone might earn some money with this "incomplete, broken software".

[jimbop]

Fair points but relative to the cost of the base game, which is the real comparator, it is a lot. Again, is there a cheaper dl only version?

[adonys]

Originally Posted by robtek

Well, some people here dont know the value of honest work, it seems.
Spending 20, with popcorn and soda, 30 bucks for a evening in the cinema with the madam is ok, but spending 30 bucks for at least 30 hours fun is too expensive.
The values are distorted, or somebody is jealous that someone might earn some money with this "incomplete, broken software".

you've spoken without thinking, mate.

unfortunately for your words, I am working in a game development company, for almost 10 years by now, as lead game-designer, senior-producer and project manager. don't tell me I don't know what game development means, or honest work.

i think the real ones not knowing the values of our honest work are the ones asking those prices for almost in-existent return value, like most of today's game DLC's, or 3rd party addons like this one, and claiming it's a "fair" price for their work.

PS: and now, regarding your "comparison", it seems you don't know your values in other domains neither.. 30 bucks for an evening in the cinema with madam will also bring you sex (a thing most men will do lots of things to get, and a thing no il2cod addon can't bring you ever) and also might bring you love, marriage, children and all the rest.. home alone again?!!

[robtek]

Originally Posted by adonys

........don't tell me I don't know what game development means, or honest work.

Thats not the same???

Originally Posted by adonys

........asking those prices for almost in-existent return value....

You are not to determine the value for this!!! The buyer/user is the only authority to determine the value it has for him!
This is no hardware where the value is more or less fixed.

Originally Posted by adonys

........and also might bring you love, marriage, children and all the rest..

And thats the point were it gets really expensive

Fun beside, what do you think the work of 4 - 5 People for 3 - 4 Months is worth?
Implemented the work was full time, 5 days a week.
Maybe around 60.000 €

And how many add-ons have to be sold for a net gain, say 2,50€/DVD (educated guess)
That would be about 24.000 copies, in a niche-market, with many people thinking like you.

Oh yes, they will get rich beyond belive.

Even if the net-gain were 10€ they must sell at least 6000 copies to get even before starting in the win-zone.

This isn't a self selling fps with millions of copies.