How do i set up my 5770 to work properly

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by pupo162

thsi was a test. i tested full graphics to see wath gets streesed out.

game uses 1 gb ram out of the 3 available, fully uses 1 cpu, leaving 3 looking at the air, and VGA at 33%

Think you're right there, I only see the primary CPU max out while the other 3 never peak higher than around 30%. GPU is always 100% though for my 5770. The ATI/Ubi logo clock speed has been fixed for quite a while I think, I don't see it anymore and haven't for some time.

Lobi is right that it is the texture streaming that causes stutters - but I think it's a case of poor CPU utilisation. During those stutters (and at game load), hard faults go through the roof as textures are loaded into the memory from the HD - some of the texture files are enormous and not very well optimised. If load were distributed more evenly between cores (instead of 100/30/30/30) we might see a decrease in stutters.

For the love of god don't run it on Medium textures unless you have no other choice, it looks terrible

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Orpheus

Think you're right there, I only see the primary CPU max out while the other 3 never peak higher than around 30%. GPU is always 100% though for my 5770. The ATI/Ubi logo clock speed has been fixed for quite a while I think, I don't see it anymore and haven't for some time.

Lobi is right that it is the texture streaming that causes stutters - but I think it's a case of poor CPU utilisation. During those stutters (and at game load), hard faults go through the roof as textures are loaded into the memory from the HD - some of the texture files are enormous and not very well optimised. If load were distributed more evenly between cores (instead of 100/30/30/30) we might see an improvement in stuttering.

For the love of god don't run it on Medium textures unless you have no other choice, it looks terrible

and how do you kick it performance wise?? im unable to goover a stable 20 fps, and i have stutters all the time. My issues are indeed with the textures: each notch lower gives me around 5 fps, and shadows.... the problem is no shadows maeks the game look too ugly

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by pupo162

and how do you kick it performance wise??

Low texture settings to "HIGH". If your FPS remains poor, sorry to say that again, but think about some upgrade regards VGA.

I have very decent performance here, texture streaming problems out. Maybe this texture size/streaming issue can be solved soon, but I really don't see more room for other optimizations regards average FPS in this engine without reducing graphics quality a bit. Maybe more shadows options can help people without enough "horsepower" in VGA.

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Low texture settings to "HIGH". If your FPS remains poor, sorry to say that again, but think about some upgrade regards VGA.

I have very decent performance here, texture streaming problems out. Maybe this texture size/streaming issue can be solved soon, but I really don't see more room for other optimizations regards average FPS in this engine without reducing graphics quality a bit. Maybe more shadows options can help people without enough "horsepower" in VGA.

didnt ask you anything...

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by pupo162

and how do you kick it performance wise?? im unable to goover a stable 20 fps, and i have stutters all the time. My issues are indeed with the textures: each notch lower gives me around 5 fps, and shadows.... the problem is no shadows maeks the game look too ugly

I know you didn't ask me either, but here's a fraps result for black death track.

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5241, 216878, 7, 53, 24.166

Medium Settings plus grass, roads, shadows.

No AA, ssao off, epi off, vsync off.

Not ideal, but I can fly missions over London on these settings, just.

Adding any AA, ssao or v-synch hauls the average down by 5 per item (ish - I've not benchmarked with all three on).

Changing the in-game settings to high does the same.

How does this compare with yours?

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I know you didn't ask me either, but here's a fraps result for black death track.

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5241, 216878, 7, 53, 24.166

Medium Settings plus grass, roads, shadows.

No AA, ssao off, epi off, vsync off.

Not ideal, but I can fly missions over London on these settings, just.

Adding any AA, ssao or v-synch hauls the average down by 5 per item (ish).

Changing the in-game settings to high does the same.

How does this compare with yours?

i have no problem with you sharing results mate. the other dude just pisses me off on how he goes on every thread "buy VGA". I cant give you exact results, but i think from memory i get somehting like that, but without shadows.

Still you have a better pc than mine by a considerable stretch.

i Have particualr interest in Orpheus, becouse his VGA goes full power, and it his the same as mine.

Thanks!

edit: you do have a 5770! can yo upelase check its usage .. plz

[ATAG_Dutch]

Yeah, Lobi's like that.

What baffles me is the overclocking of the card making no difference either, neither to frame rate nor render speed from what I can see, so maybe mine's stuck at a low level like yours, although I'm not sure where to look for this.
If you let me know I'll try the same method as you for comparison.

Calling Orpheus!

Edit, just seen your edit - of course! that's why I left my first post!!

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Yeah, Lobi's like that.

What baffles me is the overclocking of the card making no difference either, neither to frame rate nor render speed from what I can see, so maybe mine's stuck at a low level like yours, although I'm not sure where to look for this.
If you let me know I'll try the same method as you for comparison.

Calling Orpheus!

Edit, just seen your edit - of course! that's why I left my first post!!

run CCC.exe

go to the overclocking TAB, there is a very rough gage of the graphics unit usage.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by pupo162

run CCC.exe

go to the overclocking TAB, there is a very rough gage of the graphics unit usage.

Oh,that! Ok, I'll have a look and get back to you.

Edit: Ok, I've tried it, and the card usage dial goes up to 98% and hovers around that point, with the settings as in my previous post.

Have you overclocked it or is it on defaults?

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by pupo162

and how do you kick it performance wise?? im unable to goover a stable 20 fps, and i have stutters all the time. My issues are indeed with the textures: each notch lower gives me around 5 fps, and shadows.... the problem is no shadows maeks the game look too ugly

In all honesty I think it might be your CPU causing the stuttering, not the GPU. Nearly all the 'no stutter' reports I've seen are from CPU's running at at least 4 gig (overclocked or not). Other than CPU, we're not dissimilar - 5770s, 3gig of RAM to my 4gig. Are you running crossfire, or just a single GPU - with crossfire I see terrible stutter no matter what I do.

More powerful GPU will certainly help - the newish GTX5xx series are very good for CloD from what I've read on the forums, but I'd think about a CPU upgrade too. I'm no expert though, at the end it's all trial and error really. Lower textures and no shadows will certainly help - but it's up to you how much graphical quality you want to sacrifice.

Also, try pseudo windowed mode, that might help. Vysnc & SSAO off, no grass/roads/etc and buildings/building detail low.